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    Default Wellington R2699, 214 Sqn, 13 December 1939

    All sources I have show the Wellington I R2699 of 214 Sqn crashing on approach of Methwold airfield on 13 December 1939, but some say three men were killed and other two.

    All agree on the names of both pilots of the Wellington, Plt Off William Leonard Colmer and Plt Off Rex Alan Russel-Forbes, who were killed.

    The third man reported killed in this crash is LAC John Thomas Warriner. It was not included in the 1939-1940 book by Chorley, but was added by a line listed in "Additions and corrections" in the 1941 book.

    But he is not on the 214 Sqn website for example. While he is listed as belonging to 214 Sqn on the CWGC database.

    Can someone check the ORB of 214 Sqn or Methwold airfield to confirm if Warriner was aboard this bomber when he crashed ?

    Thanks in advance

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    Hello,

    Use the latest edition of Bill Chorley's work:

    Wednesday 13 December 1939
    214 Squadron
    Wellington I R2699:BU-

    T/o Methwold and crashed during an approach to the airfield. Colmer and Russell-Forbes had received their commissions on 10 June and 4 march 1939 respectively.

    P/O W L Colmer + Feltwell (St. Nicholas) Churchyard
    P/O R A Russell-Forbes + Feltwell (St. Nicholas) Churchyard
    LAC J T Warriner + Bolton Percy (All Saints) Churchyard

    See:
    Royal Air Force Bomber Command Losses of the Second World War Volume 1 1939-40 (2nd edition) Including pre-war losses July 1936-September 1939.
    Chorley, W R
    Hersham:Classic Publications.2013.
    p.92.

    Col.
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    Laurent,

    To add to what Col has written. The Form 1180 for this loss shows three killed but of course only names the two pilots. Oddly I do not see an entry for this aircraft in the AIR 81 Casualty File list. It could be there but out of sequence, if so I have not found it.

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    Martin Gleeson.

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    Thanks to both of you

    As for the AIR 81 list, there were three fatal accidents in UK on 13 December 1939 (a Wellington, a Magister and an Audax) and none seems to be in the list I found online.

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