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    Default Need help for two losses 12 Sqn - SAAF.

    Morning,

    I've got two losses of Marauder Mk II (in FB series) while in service with 12 Squadron SAAF for which I'm trying to get their serials. One occurred on 16 August, the second on 20 August. Both occurred on take-off for a bombing raid. The crew perished in full on the 16th when it crashed into sea, and the there were three casualties on the 20th.

    I must add that sometimes for the loss of 16th, the serial of HD452 is given. But it is a Mk III and in the ORB, the first Mk IIIs arrived at the squadron on the 22nd only, and it might be an error.

    As there are casualties, those losses must have been filed. Where?

    Any help would be very appreciated

    Thanks

    Phil

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    Hi Phil,

    Sorry, I haven’t the Marauder serials… But is this a full crew list?

    There are five men of No. 12 Squadron (SAAF) lost 12 Aug 1944.


    Lt Denis James Williams COMPTON (103765V)

    Lt B. J. DE KLERK (103971V)

    W/O II D. G. WALKER (580098V)

    W/O I D. C. R. WEBSTER (579987V)

    Lt N. A. WEINRICH (542942V)


    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...ate=1944/08/16

    or

    https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-d...=South+African

    https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightP...20-%202650.PDF


    Three men lost 20 Aug 1944:


    Mjr Ralph Hubert Francis HOWARTH (103094V)

    Capt Malcolm John Colin McINTYRE (103890V)

    Lt J. R. SALMOND (279643V)

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/wardead/index.php

    Regards

    Mojmir

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    Hello,
    85years of SAAF has the following losses.
    14.08.1944
    FB471 - "G" - 12 - S/D by flak, Pontelagascuro.
    Capt. CS van Heerden(K); Lt. FN Wilkinson(K); Lt. FN Edmonstone(K); W/O1. MM Bezuidenhout (K);Lt. FJ Palmer(S) POW; W/O2. DA Wooldridge (S) POW;
    HD465 - 24 - S/D by flak, Pontelagascuro.
    No crew details.
    16.08.1944
    HD452 - 12 - Crashed into sea after Take-off Pescara.
    Lt. NA Heinrich (K); Lt. BJ de Klerk (K); Lt. DJW Compton (K); W/O2. DG Walker (K); W/O1 DCR Webster(K); W/O2. F J de Jonge (K);
    20.08.1944
    FB516 - "C" - 12 - Stalled on take- off and crash landed.
    Maj. RHF Howarth (K); Capt. MJC McINtyre(K); Lt. JR Salmon's (K); W/O2. DR Copeland(S); F/Sgt. F Coetzee (S); Sgt. AJ Keeling(S) RAF.

    Details for the 12.08.1944 are given as follows.
    Wellington X - LN564 76 OTU - RAF.
    Lt. E. Bestwick; 2Lt. DU Godlonton; Lt. D H Tully;
    Spitfire IX - 232 Sqn RAF.
    Lt. GW Dibb.
    and
    Two killed in a flying accident, 132 MU, Sudan.
    A/Mesh. W. Dolby; A/Mech. CJP Van Rhyn.
    Possibly a/c MP573 and MP639
    Alex
    Last edited by Alex Smart; 1st February 2018 at 19:02.

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