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    Default Aircraft Losses in SEAC - 4th Update - Vultee Vengeances and Curtiss Mohawk

    Updated Vultee Vengeances Losses in SEAC
    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...qacid=13&qt=TY

    A considerable amount of information, especially for non squadrons come from JJ Halley's RAF Serials books. About a dozen entries for Post May 45 info come from Colin Cummings Price of Peace or Final Landings.

    These total around 180 odd.

    Will be updating Mohawk losses by the weekend. They number about 60

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    Jagan,

    05 Aug 44 - Vengeance III - FB956 - 8 Sqdn IAF.

    The third man aboard FB956 was: AUS412539 P/O (W.Op./Air) George Logan ALLAN RAAF +

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...4966&styleid=2 see: post #2.

    Col.
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    Jagan,

    28 Aug 44 Vengeance I - AN913 - 22 AACU

    The pilot of Vengeance AN913 was AUS400768 W/O Desmond Boyd Goddard BAILIE RAAF.

    Col.

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    Jagan,

    21 Apr 43 - Vengeance AN623 - 110 Sqdn.

    Also involved in this mess is: AUS404537 F/L Donald James Jack/Jock RITCHIE RAAF. The F/L Vincent mentioned is 136173 F/L Reginald Cecil Dixon VINCENT RAFVR. No further information on P/O LAURENSON (yet!).

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    Jagan

    For Vengeance EZ898, 45 Sqn, November 13th 1943 you have:

    Flt Lt J H Stevenson
    F Sgt Sydney SIDDLE* (996543)
    Hit by enemy flak during an attack. Ac Crashed and pilot killed, but Gunner survived and rejoined squadron later on.

    However, I see that Shores' Air War For Burma, Volume 3, page 112, has the following:

    Saturday, November 13th 1943:

    Four Vengeances of 45 Sqn and three of 110 Sqn attacked Kalemyo airfield, but as they returned, it was noted that the lead aircraft of the former unit, flown by F/Lt J H Stevenson, was not with them. He had been shot down by AA fire, and was reported killed. However, he and his navigator/air gunner, Sgt S. Siddle, both survived, returning to the Sqn later.

    The CWGC website has an entry for Siddle on that date: https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...iddle,-sydney/

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    Hello,

    W/C Jeff Jefford in his Book, The Flying Camels (p.505):

    Vengeance IA

    EZ898 - 8/43; "S"; lost following an attack on Kalemyo 13/11/1943; Flt Lt Stevenson RCAF baled out; and Sgt S.Siddle killed.

    Annex M. Officers and aircrew of No.45 Sqn, 1916-76

    J.H.Stevenson Flt Lt RCAF - Pilot - 8/7/43 - 13/11/43 Wounded.
    S.Siddle Sgt - WAG - 19/7/43 - 13/11/43 KIA.


    Must admit Jefford does state on p.257, " Only one parachute was seen and it appeared that Sgt Siddle had escaped; Flt Lt Stevenson was posted missing."

    Col.
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    Added Curtiss Mohawk Losses ~60
    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...1&srnum=&qord=

    The sources for these:
    Air Britain :24
    Gerry Beauchamp : 1
    NA/ Official ORBs : 33
    Phil Listemann : 2

    Also refreshed the additional details provided for the Vengeance losses from Col and Simon.

    Regarding Stevenson / Siddle in the EZ898 Vengeance Loss. The ORB does state the same - that they beleved STevenson was killed and Siddle baled out. The ORB (I dont have the files yet) apparently records that Stevenson found his way back to the unit by end of the month and no trace of Siddle. It also appears that this was the first bale out from a Vengeance?
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    Jagan, and Col

    With regards to Stevenson and Siddle, the following are excerpts from the 45 Sqn ORB, November 1943, Form 540, which explain everything:

    November 13th - 1514 - F/Lt J. H. Stevenson (Pilot) with Sgt. Siddle (WO/AG) led a formation of seven Vengeances to attack KALEMYO. This formation comprised 4 aircraft from this Squadron and three from No. 110 Squadron and the attack wa successful. Aircraft EZ898 which led the attack is however missing and the pilot F/Lt. J. H. Stevenson is presumed missing believed Killed. The WO/AG, Sgt. S. Siddle was seen to bale out successfully.

    November 21st - At approx. 1700 hours a 'phone message was received from No. 170 Wing announcing the glad news that F/Lt. J. H. Stevenson had walked into an advanced Army post at Point RP.1413 (North of Tiddim) and that he was expected that day at Imphal.
    News of what happened tp Sgt. S. Siddle (F/Lt. Stevenson's Gunner) was eagerly awaited from F/Lt. Stevenson.

    November 23rd - F/Lt. Stevenson returned to the Squadron and received a great welcome from all...he threw light on the happenings concerning Sgt. S. Siddle and explained the circumstances under which the rest of the formation gained the impression that it was Sgt. Siddle who had baled out. It seems that Sgt. Siddle did prepare to go overboard and turned his seat and stood up. This of course was seen by the other crews in the formation, but afterwards according to F/Lt. Stevenson, and for some unaccountable reason, Sgt. Siddle settled back down into the aircraft. At this time the pilot regained the stick and endeavoured to continue flight but height was being lost rapidly and a stage was soon reached at which nothing further could be done by the pilot and he then baled out. There was joy at having F/Lt. Stevenson with the Squadron again, but grief in that Sgt. Siddle who had been regarded as being the member of the crew successfully to bale out had to be regarded as 'Missing believed Killed.'

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    Hi Jagan

    20/4/1943
    No.155 Sqn
    Mohawk ?

    At 1400 hrs Mohawk ? was ordered to intercept a raid approaching the base of 155 Squadron at Agartala. It is presumed the pilot was either shot down or forced landed and would have come down in very thick jungle. Search Abandoned.

    AUS404240 P/O (Pilot) Hubert Thomas 'Junior' FREEMAN MiD RAAF - Missing

    Commemorated on the Singapore Memorial.

    (Freeman had previously served with No.249 Squadron on Malta)

    See: Mohawks Over Burma/Beauchamp pp.161, 172, 183, 186, 189, 191, 208, 242 & 288. Air War Over Burma (pp.82-3), mentions loss, but no Mohawk serial.

    No A705 for Freeman at the NAA.

    Col.

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    Hi Jagan

    24 Jun 44 - Vengeance II AN725 - 1581 Flt.

    24/6/1944
    No.1581 Calibration Flight
    Vengeance II AN725

    Missing on calibration flight - last reported position, 21.50N:88.43E.

    1582117 F/Sgt (Pilot) Bernard Henry POTTER RAFVR - Missing
    1432992 F/Sgt (Nav.) Thomas William ETCHELLS RAFVR - Missing

    Both commemorated on the Singapore Memorial

    Col.

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