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    The forum 2 years ago mentioned Joseph John Lammin, 151 squadron. He was lost 17th November 1941 over the channel. I understand he baled out from a damaged Defiant night fighter. The aircraft however made it back to base. He was my grandfather and for years have wondered if any more details can be found about this event.

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    Hopefully within the next year or so (and really hopefully) his casualty file should be released at the National Archives into the AIR 81 series. So far they have been very slow at getting them released.

    Beyond that a check of the Squadron's Operations Record Book (in pdf form) from the National Archives (in the AIR 27 series) as well as combat reports (AIR 50 series) should shed some light on what happened.
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Hello,
    From an earlier post I see that the a/c was not a Hawker Hurricane but a BP. Defiant, AA424, and that you already know the pilot's name.

    I expect that you have the following info, from the Air Britain "Defiant File" .
    But if not then -
    Page 104
    "AA424 c/n 762
    Delivered to 151 Sqn 30.9.41.
    To Reid & Sigrist RIW(Repaired in Works) 7.7.42.
    AW/CN 6.9.42.
    44 MU 22.9.42.
    To Reid & Sigrist RIW and converted to TT.1 from 6.7.43.
    AW/CN(Awaiting Collection ) 13.8.43.
    47 MU 20.9.43
    To Alexandria 29.9.43.
    Arrived Alexandria for Haifa and 79 OTU Nicosia 30.10.43.
    Damaged Cat AC. 5.12.44.
    Crashed after control lost during takeoff from Larnaca, Cyprus, 11.1.45; F/O. J.R.Cramp killed."

    So it was with 151 Sqn between End September 41 and June/July 42.

    As the previous post , the Squadron ORB and Combat Report should give you more.

    Good luck with your research.

    Alex

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    Thank you both for the information I will check those records - I will await his casualty file being released.

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    Hi Pfernyhough,

    Very interested to read your thread as I'm currently writing the history of the Boulton Paul Defiant for Pen & Sword. I'd like to make contact with you either on here, or on the email set up for the book - Defiant1940@virginmedia.com

    I have some 151 Squadron group images; your Grandfather may be on them. You are welcome to copies if you so wish.

    Regards,

    Andy

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    Your grandfather appears in a group squadron photograph in "No Place for Chivalry: RAF Night Fighters Defend the East of England Against the German Air Force in Two World Wars" by Alastair Goodrum.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Rp...lammin&f=false
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