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    Hello All,

    The LG gives:

    WOMEN'S/-'AUXILIARY' AIR-/FORCE.. % ''To''be A'sst."'Sec. Offs. on prbb.' (emergency). i3th Jan. 1943:—\ Mary Irene ^PARK^ (6425). (It’s poor page for the OCR to fight, but she pitches up again with the same number on a ‘better’ page!).

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    igth Sept. 1944. Marjorie Joyce HEPBURN (6425).

    Can somebody tell me which is the correct number (Mary Irene “Sandy” Park was a Met WAAF).

    I also have a Flt Off Beryl Athol-Smith who was, reputedly, S Met O RAF Church Lawford at the end of WW2. I can't get her to 'come up' in either (a) the usual BMDs, or (b) the LG!

    Can somebody please help?

    TIA
    Peter Davies
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    As officer was does Air Force List say?

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    Hi,

    Hepburn is a member of Princess Mary's Royal Air Force Nursing Service

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...ursing_Service

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    Mojmir

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    Hello All,
    Tks yr help! I fell into that PMRAFNS trap once before! My memory is not as good as it was!!
    Peter
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    Hi Peter,

    Just an attempt…

    Deputy Company Commanders. I8th Oct. 1938. Miss Beryl GRAHAM-SIMPSON.

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...4687/page/6357

    Sec. Offs. to be Flt. Offs. (tempy.): Ist Jan. 1943. B. GRAHAM-SIMPSON (131)

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...35855/page/226

    Was Flt Off Beryl Athol-Smith married?
    How many Beryls were Flight Officers?

    https://rafmetman.wordpress.com/waaf-met-officer/

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    Mojmir, Hi,

    The following appears in FindMyPast:-

    First name(s) Beryl, Last name Graham-Simpson
    Gender Female Age 29 Birth year 1909 Occupation NONE
    Departure year 1938 Departure day 19 Departure month 2
    Departure port Southampton Destination port Dutch East Indies Destination VILLEFRANCHE Country Indonesia
    Ship name Johan De Witt Ship master's first name J G H Ship master's last name LEFFERS
    Shipping line NEDERLAND LINE ROYAL DUTCH MAIL
    City SOUTHAMPTON Number of passengers 64

    Note the hyphenated surname.

    But also, from The Times Archive:

    Professor Graham Simpson (many entries) was a renowned surgeon (speciality unknown) who was also a "big wheel" in the College of Surgeons. d. 1939. Note, no hyphen used.

    Mr E Graham Simpson (always printed this way - i.e. initial forename (Edward?) always only the initial, and the second forename either capitalised, or emboldened, with the surname. No hyphen.). Was a "big wheel" in the City of London Guilds and Livery Companies, etc. He died 4 Aug 1947.

    19 Oct 1945
    The Engagement is announced, and the marriage will shortly take place, between Sqn Ldr Roy Mathews, RAF, only son of Mr H E Mathews of 144 Inverness Terrace, W2, and of the late Mrs Mathews, and Beryl Simpson, Flight Officer, WAAF, younger daughter of Mr and Mrs E Graham Simpson, of Chartridge, Chesham, Buckinghamshire. (Note she (or The Times which was most punctilious about these things!!) does not use the 'Graham' name).

    [/I]I cannot get 'Athol-Smith' (or 'Atholl-Smith') to come up on most of the usual sites. I have gone round in circles on this one! I am beginning to form the opinion that our elderly Channel Islands met Man might not have remembered the name as well as might have done. Knew it was 'double-barrelled' - but picked the wrong one?

    HTH

    Peter Davies
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    Peter, Have you seen this link: https://rafmetman.wordpress.com/waaf-met-officer/ Regards, Terry

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    Terry, Hi,
    Yes - I've seen it. Mojmir first mentioned it in post #5 (above). That article is the only place that I have seen the Surname "Athol-Smith" in print! I cannot make it come up anywhere else on the internet! This reinforces my view that somewhere along the way there has been a typo - or a mis-remembrance?
    Additionally, the lowest WAAF Officer (Met Branch) Service Number that I have been able to find is 3146 (Jessie Margaret Boyce, Cmd 31 Dec 41) - a 4-digit number. Graham-Simpson's Dep Coy Comm Commissioning (18 Oct 1938) has no number. Her Sect Off to Flt Off promotion Number (assuming it's the same woman) is 131 - a 3-digit number? Also, I have no proof that the marriage announced in The Times of 19 Oct 1945 ever actually took place. All my Commissioned Mathews/Matthews Met persons are male!
    I have "worried" this one for days, and got nowhere. Time to let it rest for a bit in the hope that at some unlikely place/time a flash of brilliance will illuminate everything (and all pigs are cleared for take-off!!!).
    HTH
    Peter Davies
    PS I'll respond to yr PM later!
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