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    Default R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    I am looking to reconcile the air crew on-board the three Wellingtons of No. 1 T.T.U. which crashed on 21 May 1943. The Wellingtons were: LB187, LB193 and LB237. My interest is in the issues in low-flying over water and the development of the radio altimeter, and came across this event but cannot yet find a complete resume of the events and the people involved. Thank you.

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    Rob

    Have you seen this thread (see post #7):

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...hool-Newcastle

    F/Sgt Forsyth-Johnson was the brother of Bruce Forsyth.

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    Yes thanks I had. I have managed to reconstruct the crew of Wellington LB.237, as below:

    1383232 F/Sgt J. F. FORSYTH-JOHNSON, R.A.F.V.R. Pilot & Captain Missing, presumed dead.
    1384655 Sgt W. V. CHAMBERS, R.A.F.V.R. Missing, presumed dead.
    1236744 Sgt T. B. CLARKE, R.A.F.V.R. Missing, presumed dead.
    980210 Sgt C. JONES, R.A.F.V.R. WOp/AG Missing, presumed dead.
    1377270 Sgt H. H. C. HARRIS, R.A.F.V.R. WOp/AG Died.
    658389 Sgt B. H. LOWE, R.A.F. Missing, presumed dead.

    The Aircrew Remembered website omits HARRIS, who I believe was a member of this crew.

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    This is the crew of Wellington LB193 I believe:

    116787 F/O Peter R. GRIFFIN Pilot & Captain Survived.
    122825 F/O Frederick I THOMSON Second Pilot Survived.
    129178 P/O Kenneth HOLDEN, Navigator (B) Survived.
    1087504 Sgt Ronald DEAN, R.A.F.V.R. WOp/AG Missing, presumed dead.
    1091023 Sgt Leslie Trevethan GIBSON, R.A.F.V.R. WOp/AG Missing, presumed dead.
    1091215 Sgt Sydney LAWRENCE, WOp/AG Survived.

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    It is the crew of LB187 that is more problematic, if anyone can help.

    Pilot & Captain Survived
    1039746 Sgt A. BROWN, R.A.F.V.R. ?? Missing, presumed dead.
    Navigator (B) Survived.
    WOp/AG Survived.
    WOp/AG Survived.
    1393290 Sgt E. EASU, R.A.F.V.R. WOp/AG Missing, presumed dead.

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    Good evening,
    For LB187: I have:
    142051 P/O P A D Hollom RAF P1 (slightly injured)
    Brown, as stated, WOp/AG, Runnymede Panel 143
    133971 F/O K A Embery Nav aged 21 Runnymede Panel 124
    Esau as P2, aged 24, Runnymede Panel 148
    This info came from the late Doug Sim in 1979.

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    I have Chambers as Nav, Clarke, Harris & Jones as WOp/AGs and Forsythe-Johnston & Lowe as Pilots (Per Doug Sim).

    Keith

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    Dear Keith - Thank you so much. Does this mean there were only four on board the first Wellington to ditch?

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    Sorry, I don't know. Possibly but I think they would usually fly with a full crew just in case a U-boat or intruder a/c was sighted.

    Keith

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    Default Re: R.A.F. Turnberry 21-05-1943

    LB193 and LB237 were both attached to 1 TTU ( Torpedo Training Unit) and believed to have collided near Ailsa Craig whilst searching for a missing Hampden aircraft.

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