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    Default Mia's September '44 Italy ?

    Hello,

    Has anyone aany knowledge of Allied Airmen ( not USAAF) that were lost over Italy in September "44 and not yet found ?

    If I am correct the Runnymede Memorial does not give place of death, only date and Squadron where known ?

    I search for three who were eventually captured and shot. So far I can find no a/c loss that fits their being captured on 1st October '44 after several days hiding in a Barn.

    Thanks for any help

    Alex

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    These airmen were in the Brixen, Bozen area according to document signed by the Bergermeister Herr Dr. Stanek.dated 2nd October '44. At the time of the event they were thought to be Americans, but some doubt has recently been shed on their nationality.
    Any ideas as to any RAF/RAAF/RNZAF/SAAF a/c downed in this area in 1944 ?
    Thanks
    Alex

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    Actually the site is Brixen, better Neustift Riggertal. Rigger Valley. ITALY-NOW South Tyrol.! Some kind of a broad deep canyon.

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    Sadly, none of the following seem to fit :(

    31/1-9-44
    Baltimore V - 55 Sqn - FW459 - Pitts; Cameron; Stogdale; Ives.
    1-9-44
    Ventura V - 17 Sqn SAAF - JT827 - Bain-Marais; Van Der Walt; Terblanche.
    Spitfire VIII - 241 Sqn - JF394 - Hamankiewicz.
    2-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 5 Sqn SAAF - FT878 - Dickson/pow, + 15-9-44.
    Spitfire IX -'7 Sqn SAAF - MH563 - Griessel.
    Mosquito PR XVI - 60 Sqn SAAF - NS532 - Impey ; Saunders.
    Spitfire IX - 601 Sqn - Adams.
    4-9-44
    Marauder III - 30 Sqn SAAF - HD596 - Grants /pow; Bester/pow;Le Sueur/pow; Robb; Gelb; MacNamara.
    Beaufighter TF.X - 272 Sqn - NV142 - Burgess ( plus one ?).
    Beaufighter TF.X - 272 Sqn - NV203 - West; Young.
    6-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 3 Sqn SAAF - FX750 - Hedger (RAAF).
    7-9-44
    Wellington X - 40 Sqn - LN757 - Quin; Morris; Dobson; Belt; Roberts.
    9-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 5 Sqn SAAF - FX570 - Bennee.
    Marauder III - 21 Sqn SAAF - HD409 - Andrews; Kimbrey; Maeder; Chessman; Botha; Viret.
    11-9-44
    Spitfire VB - 5 RFU - ER139 - Waters.
    12-9-44
    Boston IV - 114 Sqn - BZ499 - Martin; Turner ; Gilbert(?).
    Halifax II - 148 Sqn - BB412 - Van der Hart ; O'Brian; Parkinson; McKeen; Ives ; Ireland; Ellison; Cromwell And five passengers, Whitaker(army); Brubec(czeck); Nocar( czeck); Marchiori (Italy); Voglino (Italy).
    Spitfire VIII - 417 Sqn - LV754 - Baxter.
    13-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 5 Sqn SAAF - FX772 - Morrison.
    Marauder III - 21 Sqn SAAF - HD591 - Wilson; Trotsenberg; Whiteham/pow; Horscroft ; Swale/pow; Carter.
    Stirling IV - 624 Sqn - LK187 - Owen; Platt; Terry.
    17-9-44
    Spitfire IX - 1 Sqn SAAF - MA529 - Roy.
    Spitfire IX - 1 Sqn SAAF - MH664 - Farrell.
    18-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 5 Sqn SAAF - FX841 - Raleigh/pow.
    Spitfire IX - 185 Sqn - MK724 - Rowe.
    21-9-44
    Spitfire IX - 238 Sqn - BS530 - Lee.
    22/23-9-44
    Halifax II - 1586 Flt - JP222 - Beer ; Kuhn; Milewski; Molinski; Kozlowski; Mirowski; Martyniuk; Woolf.
    23-9-44
    Auster IV - 654 AOP - MT301 - Farrer.
    24-9-44
    Warwick ASR 1 - 293 Sqn - BV446 - Purcell; Peacock; Lonsdale; Delmage; Martin.
    25-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 3 Sqn SAAF - FX664 - Faria.
    Mustang III - 112 Sqn - FB323 - McFie.
    Spitfire LF.IXb - 601 Sqn - PT598 - Leslie.(RNZAF).
    26-9-44
    Kittyhawk IV - 3 Sqn SAAF - FX569 - Sanders.
    30-9-44
    Liberator B.VI - 31 Sqn SAAF - KG967 - Valentine; Bradshaw; Reilly; Stockford; Airlie; Knight; Rogers; White.

    Nore do any in The 2nd vol of the RAF Bomber Losses in the Middle East & Med book :(
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    Hello,
    Is it known by anyone just how it would be possible to assertain the original burial places of the airmen in the list I gave in post 1 above, that are now buried in CWG cemeteries ?

    The three men of the search were subject of a war crimes trial, but not 100% identified therein as airmen. Their names do not seem to be mentioned, only those of the perpetrators.

    It seems to suggest that they may have been buried originally in a local graveyard. They may well still be there, but most likely were transfered to a CWG Cemetery after the war.

    Any ideas ?
    Alex

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