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    Default Wellington JA453 (Date of Loss: 23/08/1944)

    There are varying accounts relating to the loss of Wellington JA453 (23/08/1944) on the internet and I wondered if anyone has any source documents which confirm the accuracy (or possible inaccuracy) of the following details:

    "The aircraft departed Peplow at 20.36 for a night cross country exercise and was heading for Aberporth Airport. During the flight the starboard engine failed and the aircraft crash-landed at Cenarth, West Wales at 23.30".

    There is also a suggestion that it crashed into the River Teifi

    Any help would be much appreciated

    Regards

    Pete


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    Aircraft: Vickers Wellington
    Unit: 83 Operational Training Unit
    Departed: RAF Peplow
    Crew:

    Pilot Officer EMMANUEL HARTSTEIN (Killed)
    Sergeant THOMAS McKENNA (Killed)
    Sergeant FREDERICK EDWARD SIMONS (Killed)
    Sergeant ROLFE LINDAHL [Royal Norwegian Air Force] (Killed)
    Sergeant HOWARD HAWKINS (Survived)
    Sergeant JOHN R.ROBERTSHAW (Survived)
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hi Pete,

    RAF Searials JA100 - JZ999 by Air Britain Publication, pg. 7 states:

    Wellington X JA453 83 OTU Engine cut, crashlanded 6 miles south of Aberporth, 23. 8. 44.

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
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    I have a partial Cassini grid reference for this incident, VN7065, which by using the on-line translator, puts the crash site in a 1km square, the bottom left hand corner of which is at SN250420. This square includes a quarry near to the river bank at SN257415. (Not marked on modern OS maps, but can be seen on Google Earth being used for forestry products storage).

    "it attempted to land across Argoed meadows, but crashed into the river Teifi, ending in a quarry on the riverbank. Four of the six crew perished in the crash. "

    I am sorry to say that I have not recorded the source of this info, but probably via Jim Halley of AB.

    regards

    DaveW

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    Thanks for the feedback; much appreciated, as always

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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