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    Default DFC and Bar F/LT J HALL (124263) 105 Sqn RAFVR 1944

    I am researching my Grandfathers military history from WWII and I cannot find the citations for his DFC & Bar. He was always very reticent about his war activities and the only explanation we ever got from him about how he got his medals was "because I was there" I would like to know if this was the case, or if there is more to the story?


    He is mentioned in the LG, in supplement 2292, DFC, (19/05/1944) and 3772 DFC* (15/08/1944), but there is no mention of why he received them.


    He is :
    Flight Lieutenant John Hall
    Service nr 124263 (30/04/1942)
    105 Squadron RAFVR
    Navigator.


    I have tried numerous books, websites and forums. I've tried to link them with his service record and his log books, but I keep coming up blank. Is there somewhere else I can search, or does anyone have any information already?

    Thanks in advance

    Damian Hall

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    Struggling to find anything to add. I believe that I've found a newspaper article from Birmingham Daily Gazette dated 16 August 1944 which may be your Grandfather. If you think that this is him and would like to have it, PM me your email address and I will send it through.

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    Hello Damian Hall,
    I may have some entries from 105 Squadron ORB for you, but need to check.
    Can you check his Logbook and inform who was his regular pilot?
    Meanwhile, I have found the citation to his BAR do his DFC:
    Fit. Lt. J. HALL. D.F.C. R.A.F.V.R; No.105 Squ.—Since being awarded the D.F.C., this officer has completed many more operational sorties. He has maintained his high standard of navigational skill and consistently displayed exemplary courage and devotion to duty.

    Adriano S. Baumgartner, ASV 00.344
    Former member of the Mosquito Aircrew Association (MAA).

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    His pilot seems to be S/L J.F. Wills.
    Last edited by David Wallace; 29th October 2018 at 18:51.

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    Hi Adriano, oh wow thank you that is amazing!
    His log book has him flying with someone named Wills, I don’t think there’s a reference to first name or rank, but I’ll take a look.
    thank you so much

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    Default Re: DFC and Bar F/LT J HALL (124263) 105 Sqn RAFVR 1944

    Capt Daymo,

    Try to find Hugh HALLYDAY here or at Toch Forum. It seems that your Grandfather was not granted an "immediate" award. We can find the text of those "immediate" awards on the London Gazette or other magazines of that time....however for non-immediate awards the CITATION is not easily found (at least as far as I have researched). You can try to write also to: https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

    They surely do have copies of his Military Service stored somewhere....probably there you will find the original citation and "back-up" by his C.O. and the Station Commander. Have seen that for those awards, the CO and Station Commander needed to support the citation....or application!

    Keep us informed if a booklet do arise...you do have a reader here, being a fan of the Mosquito and 105 Squadron as well....

    As a former member of the Mosquito Aircrew Association I do have a lot of info you do need. Contact me at: baumgartner_asv@yahoo.com.br

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    Default Re: DFC and Bar F/LT J HALL (124263) 105 Sqn RAFVR 1944

    True, member HughAHalliday is very helpful looking up award citations in Air Ministry Bulletins, of which he has a microfilm set.

    Unfortunately, as he reminded us the other day, due to COVID19 restrictions he has no access to a microfilm reader and is unable to do any look-ups for the time being.
    Toujours à propos

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    I was also wondering... in his log book he has several entries down as Special Duty? what does this mean? I know there were special duties divisions, but I didn’t think the 105 were one of them. Any ideas?
    thanks once again

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    If you can give me dates I can look those ops up. The Oboe squadrons sometimes led daylight formations of heavies for attacks on some targets and that may be what he was referring to. Its also not unusual to see Oboe ops listed in log books as “experimental” since they were always trying out new things.
    Last edited by David Wallace; 30th October 2018 at 19:04.

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