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    Hi all,

    Does anyone have a copy of the book "The Salford Lancaster", detailing the loss of 106 Squadron Lancaster PB304 on the 30th of July 1944? My copy is still at my ex's place. I'm particularly interested in the Wireless Op in the crew, Sgt Arthur Wilmot Young. Does the book make mention of him coming to the UK from Jamaica, either during the war, or possibly as a child in the 1920s?

    I co-host a radio show on Tuesday mornings, and this coming week we've got a guest talking about the contribution of ethic minorities in Cardiff in WW2. Her Uncle, Arthur Young, was killed in a Lancaster crash in 1944. I have no more information than that at the moment, but I'm hoping to try and find out a bit more ahead of the interview. He's the only Arthur Young lost in a Lancaster, but as we all know it may not have been a Lanc. If I can find a Jamaican connection then he's likely my man.

    Many thanks and best wishes,

    Greg
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    Greg,

    For what it is worth, this is what I have on "Arthur Young":

    Born in Cardiff in 1923, black British airman Arthur Young had joined the RAF in 1941 aged eighteen. He began signals training in Morse code, with a posting in Blackpool. His wireless training began in July 1942 and by 1943 he was qualified wireless operator/air gunner with Bomber Command. Arthur's family origins are unclear, but he was quite possibly descended from the black population that settled around many of the ports of England during the 250 years of the slave trade. He might also have been a child of immigrants from the colonies, but this is less likely because immigration at that time was far more restricted than it became after the war. In March 1944, Arthur Young married Florence May Silver, also of Cardiff and by then he had been flying operationally for some time.

    See:
    Caribbean Volunteers at War:The Forgotten Story of the RAF'S 'Tuskegee Airmen'.
    Johnson,Mark
    Barnsley:Pen & Sword Aviation,2014
    pp.123-4

    Arthur Young is mentioned in the context to being crew on Lancaster PB304, and "The Salford Disaster", by Joe Bamford.

    Col.
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    Thanks Col, but there's nothing in your post beyond the first sentence... :-)

    But while having a look around on Google, I found this, which has proved the connection. It was actually her brother, not her uncle: -

    https://twitter.com/ITVWales/status/997471274036269056

    Many thanks again, very best wishes as always,

    Greg
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    Greg, Hi,
    If you get any Numbers, then keep this in mind:-

    713000-715899 (2900) Enlisted RAFVR Jamaica 01-Dec-43 31-Aug-44
    723000-725650 (2651) Enlisted RAFVR Jamaica 01-Sep-44 30-Sep-44

    HTH
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    Greg,

    Refresh, and have another look!

    Col.

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    Col - that is epic, many thanks indeed, you are a true gen man!! I know that Arthur's parents came from the Caribbean in the 1920s, so if Arthur was born in Cardiff, I'd take a guess that they arrived here pre-1923. The information on him being married is also interesting, I wonder if Florence is still alive?

    Peter - also brilliant, another true gen man!! It looks like he may have enlisted locally if, as per Col's post, he was born in Cardiff, but I'll keep you updated. I've started another thread asking for any details of his time on 106, as well as the Rear Gunner, Sgt M. Singh, whose name suggests he too may have been from overseas.

    Thanks chaps, I owe you both a pint of Brains Brewery's finest :-)

    L/O

    Greg
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    Col, Peter, et al,

    This is Patti Flynn, who we're interviewing on Tuesday morning: -

    https://twitter.com/ITVWales/status/997471274036269056

    L/O

    Greg
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    I have the book, though it is probably too late for your needs. Let me know regardless and I'll scan the relevant detail , if that is allowed on this forum

    Regards

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