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    This is a bit of a long shot but was wondering if anyone can identify which OTU or AFU the Avro Anson belonged to in the image link? The only clue is a striped emblem on the nose. The engine cowling and nose configuration suggest it might be a Mk XI, Mk XII, C.19 or later model. There is nothing written on the back but the photo is thought to have been taken in 1947/48 in the UK.

    Many thanks in advance
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    Chris

    Link's not working in Firefox, but is, after a fashion, in Safari.

    Here's a direct link:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WP3...tGvV9ce7V/view

    Looks like an Anson C.19, and the emblem on the nose is an Air Chief Marshal pennant (is that right?), which may help pin it down. Can't have been that many silver Ansons with an A.C.M. pennant on the nose...

    Regards

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    Yes Simon - definitely appears to be an ACM Flag.

    Thanks for posting link - it did not appear at all in 'Opera'.

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    Thanks for that Simon

    Very interesting information! Been trying a web search for Air Chief Marshal pennant emblems on aircraft without success.

    Apologies for the link, I couldn't upload images to the Galleries as per the PDF as the fields did not appear, must be a google chrome thing.

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    If the time period is correct it was the personal transport of Air Chief Marshal Sir Norman Bottomley, 23 March 1947 to 1 January 1948.

    Curious if there are other images of this aircraft and if the registration is known?

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    Assuming it is a C19 or VIP derivative.
    The various Communications Squadrons or Flights are a bit of a nightmare/minefield.

    At the end of the war - The Metropolitan Communications Squadron was based at RAF Hendon.

    I guess the photo is taken after 23 Mar 1947 since Bottomley was promoted to ACM as the Inspector General of the RAF on that date (From the excellent RAFWEB biographies)

    http://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Bottomley.htm

    But of course the Photo could have been taken at any RAF/Military Airfield.

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    Thanks BVS

    I am also wondering if any Anson’s were active as VIP transports in Italy during the war. Would an Anson have been used as a personal transport for Air Chief Marshal Sir Arthur Tedder if traveling in Italy in 1944/45? Seems unlikely in a silver colored aircraft, would it not have been camouflaged?

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    Hi Chris
    Where did you get the info that the A/C might be related to Bottomley ?

    I doubt Tedder would have been happy to be carted around in a silver 'Annie' in an active war zone (I certainly would not LOL)

    Trouble is - as I posted earlier - Comms Flights/VIP Flights are a bit of a minefield and I am not sure where to start looking even.

    rgds baz

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    Hi baz, can much appreciate that Comms Flights/VIP Flights are a bit of a minefield.

    So a little bit of context about the photo.

    There is nothing written on the back. The photo belongs to a friend whose father was a Polish soldier in Italy from 1944 to 1945, and then in the Polish Resettlement Corps (PRC) in the UK from 1947 to 1948 (their father is the one kneeling). With that in mind I can only conclude that the picture was either taken in 44/45 Italy or in 47/48 UK. As for Bottomley and Tedder I came up with those dates based on nothing more than their tenure as Air Chief Marshal during those periods.

    Apologies for any confusion.
    Hope this adds some clarity.
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    Thanks Chris

    I do not know if this website might be of any help -

    http://www.northwickparkpolishdpcamp.co.uk

    There is lots of info on there about the PRC and all of the Resettlement Camps.

    At least a few Polish Resettlement camps were on ex RAF Airfields (inc Husbands Bosworth and Wheaton Aston) and others may have been close by to Airfields.

    rgds baz

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