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    I am working on a project for relatives of airmen from No 35 Squadron involved in the loss of JB786, one of whom (PG Boyce) was captured and imprisoned in Stalag IV-B at Muhlberg.

    Whilst there, he swapped identity with an American soldier (Bernard Pizzo) and he ended up in Stalag Luft III (presumably in an American contingent that was evacuated to L3?)

    I am intrigued by the story and wondered if anyone has any suggestions on how to establish if, when and why "Bernard Pizzo" arrived at Stalag Luft III and whether he remained in the American contingent or reverted back to his true identity.

    The family understand that when he was liberated, he had difficulty convincing the authorities that he was British, suggesting that he remained "americanised" until his liberation.

    Your usual thoughts, pointers etc would be welcome

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    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hello

    Not much help, but here's a possible match for Pizzo: a search of Fold3 for Bernard Pizzo brings up one match: Bernard F. Pizzo, 12126947.

    Googling that brings up a few matches, including:

    http://www.indianamilitary.org/Germa...ROSTER/131.htm

    He was with the 590th Field Artillery. Ancestry.com and findmypast.com may have some American enlistment and P.o.W. info, but I don't have a .com account for either, just .co.uk accounta.

    Regards

    Simon

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    Simon

    Thanks for you time and effort

    That is my man ...... so ...... if PG Boyce used the name B Pizzo, (with B Pizzo staying at Stalag IV-B under the name of PG Boyce) in theory, B Pizzo should be registered as moving from Stalag IV-B to Stalag Luft 3 at some point in time.

    What puzzles me is .... why is PG Boyce shown in the official records as being at Luft 3 ..... surely he was B Pizzo, unless he reverted back to his proper name on arrival. I also have to work out why and when American soldiers would be moved to Stalag Luft 3 .... so plenty of research still needed

    I don't have access to those sites either, but hopefully someone will, thereby enabling me to progress the matter

    Regards (and thanks again)

    Pete
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    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Field Title Value Meaning
    SERIAL NUMBER 12126947 12126947
    NAME PIZZO BERNARD F PIZZO BERNARD F
    GRADE, ALPHA PVT Private
    GRADE CODE 8 Cadet, USMA or Chief Warrant Officer or Private or Apprentice, Seaman
    SERVICE CODE 1 ARMY
    ARM OR SERVICE FA Field Artillery
    ARM OR SERVICE CODE 30 FA: FIELD ARTILLERY
    DATE REPORT: DAY (DD) 21 21
    DATE REPORT: MONTH (MM) 12 12
    DATE REPORT: YEAR (Y) 4 1944
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    STATE OF RESIDENCE
    TYPE OF ORGANIZATION 656 105 MM Howitzer Truck Drawn
    PARENT UNIT NUMBER 0590 0590
    PARENT UNIT TYPE 07 Battalion/Training Battalion Combat/Special Troops
    AREA 72 European Theatre: Germany
    LATEST REPORT DATE: DAY (DD) 07 07
    LATEST REPORT DATE: MONTH (MM) 06 06
    LATEST REPORT DATE: YEAR (Y) 5 1945
    SOURCE OF REPORT 1 Individual has been reported through sources considered official.
    STATUS 8 Returned to Military Control, Liberated or Repatriated
    DETAINING POWER 1 GERMANY
    CAMP 006 Stalag 4B Muhlberg Sachsen 51-13
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    Alex is posting from this US NA website, for future reference

    https://aad.archives.gov/aad/index.jsp

    Its the same data as the geneology websites have just for free! And ancestry disn't bother to bring across the enlistment serial number data field.
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I think this may end up being one of those unanswerable questions, but the family are submitting a FOI request to see if they can access the German POW files at the TNA (as they are closed until 100 years after his birth). Hopefully this may shed some light on the matter.

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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