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    After many years of looking for relatives I have finally made contact with the neice of the Wireless Operator from my Dad's crew, Sgt Thomas Leslie Jackson, service number 1681086, from Hull, Yorkshire.

    He was KIA when 44 (Rhodesia) Squadron Lancaster ME699, KM-T was shot down on the night of the 4th/5th July 1944 near Beauvais on the way back from a raid on the V1 storage and assembly area at St Leu d'Esserant, one of six crew killed, while two evaded.

    Jackson's neice tells me that the family believed he baled out but was killed. Correspondance with another crew family in Canada indicates that Jackson was the only one of the crew identified after the crash meaning that this might be true, although all six are buried in a common grave in Beauvais.

    So a few questions arising.

    1. Is it common for crewmen to be buried together like this when one was identified but the others not? It kind of makes sense not to separate them to me, but is this usual.

    2. Is there any way to find out specifically what happened to Sgt Jackson and if he got out of the aircraft, and if so, how did he die? There was obviously an investigation which is referenced by the letter to Harold Braaten's family (llink below). Would there be any existing records from this?

    http://lancaster-me699.co.uk/____imp...0452-00193.jpg


    http://lancaster-me699.co.uk/____imp...0452-00194.jpg


    The full story of the crew is at my web site http://lancaster-me699.co.uk if you need any further background information.

    I am still looking for any trace of what happened to the other survivor, Sgt William (Bill) Robinson, RAF service number 1777532, who was the Flight Engineer and was the second man, with my Father, to survive the aircraft being shot down.

    He also evaded capture having been looked after (I believe) by the Morels family in France. I have been told that he was a Scot, and also that he was yet another Yorkshireman. So far I have had no trace of what happened to Bill after his return to the UK in 1944. His IS9 report is one of those frustratingly lost.

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    Hi Mike,

    in my opinion:

    1. So far as I know yes it was common for the crews buried on enemy territory. Many times it was difficult to identify every member of the crew - for example when the aircraft has exploded in the air and only body parts has been found in the wreckage. When one of the crew has been identified they were buried together and this later helped to identify the rest of the crew fate.
    2. I am afraid if would be nearly impossible to find you what exactly happened to him...

    As for the survivor you can try you luck in the TNA (if you have not done it yet):

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ls/r/C14078428

    WO 208/3349/496
    Description:

    Sergeant W Robinson (service number 1777532).

    Service: RAF.

    This individual’s report has not survived. Possible information on this individual (including duplicate or other appendices) may be present in WO208/5405-5436.

    HTH

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
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    Mike, the advice from Pavel is good. When you see the following in a WO208 file description ...

    "This individual’s report has not survived. Possible information on this individual (including duplicate or other appendices) may be present in WO208/5405-5436."

    ... it implies that an associated person or event may be within that file, in this case WO208/5405-5436. Finding the information in the named file(s) would have to be done by someone who knew the names and locations of the crash so they could recognise te link. It works when there is a link but as you can see from the wording TNA chooses to use it is not a promise.
    I mention this in case you are deciding what action to take with all these sources being discussed.

    HTH,
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    Mike

    Not sure if you have pursued this route, but it may be possible to find the original MREU Report in the repatriation file of WA Young in the Australian Archives. You can ask for a copy of the file, which is then made available as an online digitised file. The report may also be in the files of the two Canadians (but I am assuming that this is where you found the letter).

    Regards

    Pete
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    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Thanks guys. I'll digest and have a think where to look next. You are correct that I have searched the Canadian archives. I also have Bill Young's RAAF records.

    T L Jackson's niece told me "My dad always told me that Leslie (he did not use the name Thomas) bailed out of the plane and his parachute caught in a tree and he was shot there." While this may be the case it doesn't ring true for France in July 1944. I would have thought that this would be something that ought to be reported somewhere.

    As for Bill Robinson, he is a total enigma, just seems to have disappeared after September 1944. I keep hoping that some living relative will find the website, which has been the case for all the rest of them.

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