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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 10-12-1941

    What were the place of death registration for:

    A - Killed in action:
    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Alfred E. HOWLAND - 1253475 - 220 Sqn (Wick. Caithness); in ORB: 'Killed in the air 10-12-1941'.

    B - Killed on active service:
    Sgt (Pilot) Arthur W. JACK - 1377294.

    C - Died of wounds or injuries received on active service:
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Ronald C. SUMMERELL - 1315577.

    D - Not found Flight archives:
    AC2 Sidney W. NORTHY - 1245912 - age 34.

    E - Died on active service:
    AC2 David J. DAVIES - 1239491 - 68 Sqn (High Ercall, Shropshire), and
    AC1 Edward E.R. GORNALL - 578081.

    F - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Oxford I - L4630 - 14 FTS - flew into ground Larborough Farm, near Potterne, Wiltshire.
    Oxford I - L9643 - 3 FTS - flew into ground Hailey Wood, near Cirencestrer, Gloucestershire (already as a casualty on this a/c: Sgt A.W.J. HUNTER - RAAF 403408).
    Tiger Moth II - T5622 - 9 MU - flew into ground Lord Baynes Park, Burwarton, Shropshire.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
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    Forgot to mention that Sgt HOWLAND lies buried Sec. O "Coll. Grave" 414 Wick Cemetery (together with P/O [Pilot] Stephen J. HERRING - 42605 [23-8-1940 Hudson T9299, 269 Sqn] and S/Ldr [Pilot] Robert H.S. McCONNELL - DFC - 34023).

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    Hi Henk
    Jack,29, and Summerell,19 are registered at Devizes, Wiltshire which is the right area for L4630 at Potterne. The register spells Summerell as Summerzell but everything else ties in and I thing it is a typo on the register as his name is added to the bottom of the page.
    Northy,34, is registered at Ampthill, Bedfordshire,
    Gornall,19, registered at Rugby, Warwickshire
    I found 3 David J Davies', 2 in Wales but one,age 37, registered at Wellington, Shropshire an area that covers High Ercall, but is a bit far north for the Tiger Moth at Burwarton
    The other 2 were age 41, registered at Pontypridd,S Wales and age 38, registered at Carmathen, also Wales but a bit further North
    It looks as though Howland would be registered in Scotland
    Hunter,20, is registered at Cirencester,Gloucestershire
    Regards
    Dick
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    Davies stumbled while removing a chock and fell into the airscrew, killing him instantly at High Ercall.
    The Tiger Moth on Lord and Lady Boynes estate was non fatal.

    Cheers, Tom

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    Thanks Dick and Tom for this great info; files amended.
    Regards,
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    Found S W Northy feintly printed DOAS in 19th Feb magazine.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
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    Sgt. A.E Howland's cause of death is due to a gunshot wound to the chest as a result of enemy action over the North Sea.

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    Thanks AL90 and Dennis for additional info on HOWLAND and NORTHY.
    Regards,
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    I was concerned that posting this next batch of answers from the F1180s would have put Henk under too much pressure to update after his request to remove his user name.

    I now post them to contine his legacy on RAF Commands.

    F1180 confirms Jack and Summerell as both killed on Oxford L4630

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    Hello

    AC1 Edward E.R. GORNALL - 578081 - the Rugby Advertiser of December 16th 1941 reported the following:

    AIRCRAFTMAN KILLED
    Jury Consider Victim Was To Blame
    "We have come to the conclusion that he had himself to blame," said the Doroner (Mr. E. F. Hadow), at the inquest at Rugby on Friday on Aircraftman Edward Ernest Richard Gornall, aged 19, who died in the Hospital of St. Cross early on Wednesday last week, The jury returned a verdict that Gornall died from severe shock and internal injuries sustained when the lorry in which he was a passenger came into collision with a private lorry, and that he was sitting on the side of the lorry, contrary to regulations.
    Corporal Charles John Lee, said that at 5.50 p.m. on december 9th he was travelling in a lorry along the Lutterworth Road, near Willey. He was in front, with the driver. They met a private lorry travelling in the direction of Nuneaton, and then there was a bang. He found Gornall lying in the back of the lorry. It was against the regulations for anyone to sit on the side of a vehicle, and he was particularly strict about giving instructions to that effect.
    In answer to Mr. Gough, witness said no seats were provided in the back of the lorry, and the men could either stand or sit on the floor.
    James Sweetin said he was standing in the rear of the lorry, supporting himself by a bar behind the cabin, Gornall was sitting beside him, but he did not notice whether he was sitting on the floor or on the side.
    Dr. J. P. Adlam, resident medical officer at the Hospital of St. Cross, said Gornall was admitted to the hospital in a shocked condition and semi-conscious, and he died at 2.45 a.m.
    Questioned by Dr. Gough, Dr. Adlam agreed that in his view Gornall could not have been sitting on the floor of the lorry.


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    Simon
    Last edited by wwrsimon; 28th September 2017 at 17:43. Reason: typo

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