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    Default Clipped Wings (By Colin Cummings) Update

    Page 32 - Demon A1-54 11-Jan 1940

    The crew of 2 did indeed survive

    Plt Off John James Holden (pilot) and Sgt John Thomas Whelan (observer)

    https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=192727
    Last edited by Jagan; 18th May 2019 at 17:25.

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    Default Clipped Wings Vol 3 First Mystery Solved

    Colin

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    Pierre George Antoine Pélissier



    Harvard P5814 15 Feb 1943

    Cadet Pilot Fighting French Forces

    Aircraft accident 2 Mils sSW Hunters Road

    Zimbabwe Death notices, 1904-1976

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...=19&cc=1838530

    Ps it great thanks for sending out so quick

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    Default Clipped Wings Vol 2 Entry Update

    If anyone wants to update their book by Colin Cummings (Oldduffer) et al

    Entry for Canada 8th August 1941 is wrong (as the late Bill Walker suspected) for Harvard 2712 - It was lost 1941-04-08 NOT August 8th 1941 with 2 killed

    Pilot Officer Kenneth Maescher ARMSTRONG (C/4009) 1941-04-08 United States of America Glendale (Forest Lawn) Memorial

    Died with French flier Aircraftsman Jean Eugene Battaglia R/81397 RCAF Ice of East Lake Piction Ontario Failed to pull out of a steep dive

    News report at time
    In the second Royal Canadian 'Air Force is;crash in Ontario within 24 hours. Pilot Officer Kenneth M. Armstrong, of Los Angeles, and Aircraftsman J. Eugene Battagalia, of unoccupied France, crashed with terrific impact against the Ice of East Lake when they were unable, to pull their plane out of a steep dive


    Simon reported this from Ancestry

    Armstrong's R.C.A.F. Service File records that they were in Harvard 2712 which went into a shallow dive from 3500 feet and crashed on ice with engine on near Athol Bay at 13.15. Cause obscure. Also killed A.C.2 Battaglia J. E.


    Paul

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    Hello

    I thought I'd come across Battaglia recently - he was in the list of UK casualties:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...224#post142224

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    Simon

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    Please can I take the opportunity to thank Paul and others for the corrections offered for the first three volumes of "Clipped Wings". I am considering whether to attempt an Addendum to the volumes when CW 4 is published. I hope this will not seem like sour grapes but some of the amendments offered - but not on this forum - have proved (how can I put this delicately) slightly at variance to the fact!! A problem is that even official documents are not always accurate, with transpositions of characters, aircraft serials etc. In Clipped Wings, particularly with Volume 2 and as I am finding with Vol 4, the many different ways of recording information does not always help. In addition and despite 75 years having passed, some countries are still sensitive about what they will open for research and what they want to keep closed - what's the point of a national archive/record office if the bloody thing is under lock and key!!!!!!!

    Colin Cummings - in Mr Grumpy mode

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    Colin an other update

    "June 30 1941'- Date wrong and NOT Solo
    Sergeant Douglas Erwin HALL (R/61645) 1941-06-20 Canada Danville Protestant Cemetery Ref : Lot 6. Range 3. Row 1. Grave 5.
    Killed in flying accident near Prince Albert Sask on "June 21st"

    Actually June 21st 1941 - Not June 30 1941 As per Clipped Wings - -Date confirmed The Lethbridge Herald June 22 1941
    Tiger Moth 4208

    "Category A damage on 21 "July" 1941 at Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. Probably with No. 6 EFTS at the time."

    last date: 8 July 1941 - Struck off

    Also on board injured LAC Don Hamilton Reed R95700 (from Glendale California Mothre Belle Reed) Dangerously ill (injured)
    Reed later qualified Course 44: December 5, 1941 - March 27, 1942 No. 4 Service Flying Training School Saskatoon

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