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    Hello All,

    C-47B, 43-48314 of the USAAF, crashed in Greece 9/10 Sep 1944 and was destroyed by fire. The bodies were unidentifiable so they were all returned to the USA for burial. The aircrew were, presumably, all USAAF (thus the repatriation of the remains to USA). The pax were a very mixed lot. I have discovered 6. A Lt-Col in the RAC, a Maj in the RE, a Capt in the RA, a Lt in the S African Engineers, a Cpl in the R Sigs, and an AC2 in the RAF (should probably have been RAFVR).

    Does anybody know:-
    (a) Where the crash took place?
    (b) The origin/destination of the flight?
    (c) The purpose of the flight?

    Any help, or pointers, will be gratefully received.

    TIA
    Peter Davies
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    Hi,
    Couldn't find anything on the location etc. but there is a photo of the mass grave withh all the crew and passengers names at the link below
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...photo=49977130
    Update:
    A search for Peter Gingeresky brought the following details, looks like an SOE mission tha went wrong.
    http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/soe-oss-killed-greece-9-september-1944.52632/

    Alan.
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    Hello,

    A similar query came up quite a while ago:

    The 12th TCS lost a crew on 9 September (1944), when Cpt Davidson Jr. acting CO of the unit, crashed on a DZ about 50 miles north of Athens; there were also six paratroops aboard Dakota 43-48314. Engine failure was cited as the cause of the crash, the aircraft being very low at the time and flying as slowly as possible to make the drop, giving it no chance of recovery.

    See:
    Flights of the Forgotten Special Duties Operations in World War Two.
    Merrick,K.A.
    London:Arms & Armour,1989.
    p.217

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...-1944&styled=2

    Col.
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    Hi,

    There has been a lot of discussion about this incident on another forum back in 2014.

    http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads...er-1944.52632/


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    Fold 3 has an MACR number 16195, https://www.fold3.com/image/30088301.
    The hand writing is not the best but it seems to indicate 5 crew from 60TCG/12TCS and a Yugoslavian dispatcher, carrying 6 officers who were to parachute down to Allied mission, who were also killed their names not given.
    Both engines cut out simultaneously and then plane crashed into mountainside, location given as Central Greece.
    Crew details:
    P. Capt. Paul E. Davison
    CP. 2nd Lt. Joseph C. Volk
    N. Capt. Edward L. Quegan
    E. Cpl. Theron Hoxsie
    RO. S/Sgt. Peter Gingersky
    Yugoslavian dispatcher J. Orrel (must be A. Poberaj)

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    Hi
    In an attempt to consolidate all the facts on C-47B, 43-48314 of 12th Troop Carrier Squadron, Brindisi the crew and passengers are as follows:
    United States:
    Capt Paul E Davison. Pilot
    Maj Linn M Farish. OSS
    S/Sgt Peter Gingeresky. Radio Operator
    Cpl. Theron E Hoxsie. Engineer
    Capt Edward L Quegan. Navigator
    2Lt Joseph C Volk. Co-Pilot

    Great Britain:
    Maj Clifford Roy Forbes-Harris. SOE. Royal Engineers
    Lt Col. Edgar Herbert Hiscocks. SOE. Royal Armoured Corps
    AC2 Alojz Poberaj. Air Dispatcher. Royal air Force. Slovenian ?
    Cpl Kenneth William Clarence Thomas. SOE. Royal Corps of Signals
    Capt Geoffrey Watson. SOE. Royal Artillery.

    South Africa:
    Lt Victor Potgieter. SOE. South African Engineer Corps.

    Crash location: Stevenikon, Greece
    All initially Interred at Levadhia, Greece
    Re-interred Athens (Phaliron) Cemetery 5/9/45
    Re-interred at Arlington 1951 Grave 3435F

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    Many thanks to all.
    I am investigating this crash in order to establish some solid 'background' for another thread that I am chasing. The info confirms what I had already found (mainly from ww2talk.com/index.php?threads/soe-oss-killed-greece-9-september-1944.52632/). Forbes-Harris gets a posthumous MBE (backdated in the LG!). There is, however and in my opinion, one glaring inconsistency which none of the commentators/authors seem to have picked up. I am awaiting the arrival of a GRO Death Cert (unconnected with this lot, but connected to the other thread) before I 'come clean'.
    HTH
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    Dare I suggest that Maj Clifford Roy Forbes-Harris should read Maj Clifford Roy Forbes-Harriss, as per the spelling on the memorial and CWGC?

    Brian

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    Correct Brian, "Harriss' not Harris. Finger trouble again.
    Alan.

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