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    Default Nummer Eins, Munero Uno, Number One

    Hello All,
    I am about to go QRT for today. I will leave you with an interesting little bit of minutiae which came up today during my POW investigations.
    Our DB gives 709504 Sgt Denis John Harvey, RAF, of 97 Sqdn, becoming POW 1941-05-10, and in Camp 357 (Kopernikus?) with the POW number 1!
    WO416 gives the very same Sgt as being in Dulag Luft Oberrursel with the very same number 1!
    Now I don’t pretend to have anything more than a fleeting knowledge of the locations, and admin procedures, of the German POW camps, but I thought you might like to be aware of a “Number One”!!!
    And how come he’s Nummer Eins in the middle of 1941? Must have been a lot more before him? Would appreciate a brief briefing!!
    HTH
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    Default Re: Nummer Eins, Munero Uno, Number One

    Hi Peter,

    Stalag 357 (Neusiedl) Austria was opened 06/41 (Closed 09/41)

    Sgt Harvey (POW 1941-05-10) could be the number 1 ... ?

    https://www.pegasusarchive.org/pow/Stalag.htm

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    Default Identity of an Edward (W A) Collins Requested.

    Hello All,
    This one has got me chasing my own tail!!
    Our DB has 20 COLLINS’ – none of which look as if they might fit.
    WO416 gives us Edward [W A] Collins, [Royal Air Force], [Pilot Officer], [Royal Air Force], JX138584, Stalag XVIIID Maribor, 7629 (but D/JX 138584 is a Chief Petty Officer Telegraphist Edward William Arthur COLLINS, D/JX 138584!).
    FMP gives 652164 LAC Edward Collins (but he’s FEPOW!)
    FREEBMD gives Edward W A Collins b. Q4 1916 Devonport 5b 530 (that might fit? - but where does he go?)
    FWR gives any number of assorted Edward (x y) Collin’s.
    You assistance is respectfully requested!
    TIA
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    Default Re: Identity of an Edward (W A) Collins Requested.

    Peter

    Chief Petty Officer Telegraphist Edward William Arthur COLLINS, D/JX 138584 was on H.M.S. Courageous in September 1939 when it was lost, according to a family tree on ancestry.co.uk. Born December 6th 1916 at Devonport. It also records that he was a P.o.W. at Bad Radkersburg, Styria, Austria, in February 1943.

    Perhaps WO416 has mixed up P/O between Pilot Officer and Petty Officer? Just a thought...

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    Default Re: Identity of an Edward (W A) Collins Requested.

    Simon,
    VMT. I must have been particularly dull this morning!! Yr suggestion seems like the right answer! That WO416 data seems to have more errors than usual.
    Tks again.
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    Default Today’s POW Puzzle – Help Please

    Hello All,
    WO416 has, this morning, coughed up a Falkiner FRASER. It tells me he was in the RAF, and that he was at Stalag IXC at Bad Sulza where his POW # was 39540. That is all it tells me!
    So I excavate in all the ‘usual places’ but can find nothing on him. I then check Stalag IXC. Wiki (caveat emptor!) seems to indicate that this was an all Army POW camp?
    My thinking is that Falkiner Fraser in the RAF is a WO416 typo (there are rather a lot!).
    Can anybody confirm?
    TIA
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    Default Re: Today’s POW Puzzle – Help Please

    Peter

    Not a typo, just the right name, but in the wrong order? Its probably 40022 Fraser Falkiner R.A.A.F.

    His file hasn't been digitised at NAA.gov.au, but he's on the database on here [as Fraser Faulkiner]:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=W3704

    Although a newspaper clipping on ancestry.co.uk records that he was a Pathfinder, and spend 3 and a half years as a P.o.W...

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    Default Re: Today’s POW Puzzle – Help Please

    Hello,

    FALKINER, "Jum" Fraser. W/O AUS400220 - Pilot - Born: Melbourne, Victoria. 06/09/1919. No.72 (Basutoland) Sqn. Spitfire Vb W3704 "QACHA'S NEK" 27/10/1941.

    He was flying alone, unaware that his wingman had aborted, when he spotted some Me 109s below and having called his wingman to attack, did so. His aircraft suddenly exploded into a ball of flame. Initially jammed in his cockpit, he probably was thrown clear in an explosion and recovered consciousness in time to deploy his parachute and land safely.

    A few weeks previously he had been involved in the escort for Blenheims which during a bombing raid (on 19/08/41 - Circus 81), had dropped the spare "tin legs" for captured Douglas Bader. Later, in POW camp, together with W/O Graham Williams* he "adopted" Russian First Lt Vladimar Mihialovitch Rasimov (name needs verificaion) and cared for him.

    Camps: St.IXC - Muhlhausen. POW No. 39540.

    * AUS407052 W/O (Obs.) Robert Graham WILLIAMS RAAF (later MBE)/ Shot down 14/06/41, in No.39 Sqn RAF Maryland II AH299? [AH300?], MAW1/Shores et al/219-20 and Wingless/Roberts/506)

    See:
    Wingless - A Biographical Index of Australian Airmen Detained in Wartime.
    Roberts,Tom.
    Ballarat:Author,2011.
    p.188

    Col
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    Default Re: Today’s POW Puzzle – Help Please

    Col (et al),
    I thank you for your response.
    That is one of the small - but important - sidelines of working in this area of research. Technically, and legally, the POWs are, in fact, just "Number, Rank, & Name" as required by the Geneva Convention, but as I work - back and fore - through the lists and spreadsheets one gets to know a large number of the folk therein as "PEOPLE"! You came up with the piece about Bader's tin legs. I live only a few miles from Woodley, and The Royal Berkshire Hospital, so Bader is, in effect, one of my 'local boys'!
    There are numerous other examples of the snippets of "real life" which make the POWs live, and which makes working in this area (whilst it is often tedious!!!) such a pleasure!
    Tks again!
    Peter Davies
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    Default Re: Today’s POW Puzzle – Help Please

    Hello

    He was also nicknamed "tiny" Falkiner. He was posted to No. 72 Squadron from No. 57 O.T.U. on 9th June 1941. It was ironic as he was taller than the average.

    I've tried to find a PoW questionnaire for him in the WO344 series at Kew, but didn't find it. Either he didn't file one, or it's misplaced.

    Joss

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