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    Hi,

    In May 1945 in Beyrouth airfield one aircraft used at the "Section des Liaisons Ariennes" 377 (SLA 377) was Miles 853. Does anybody know the complete serial and type of this "853" ?

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    Bertrand

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    Bertrand, Hello,
    Your best bet is to contact museumofberkshireaviation.co.uk/. This is sited on the old Woodley Aerodrome (which is now a housing estate, you will not be surprised to learn!!). I had dealings with them some years ago, and they were very helpful. But I think they are almost totally staffed by volunteers, so response times may be a bit long. You might also have to wait while the guy who knows what you want to know is 'on duty'!
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    If its an Air Ministry serial number i.e. **853

    Pop it into Jagan search engine and see if any Miles aircraft lines up

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/serials/

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    Hello Bertrand,

    Miles M.14A Magister Mk. I (Batch N3773 to N3817)

    My guess could be N3805.

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    Finn Buch

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    Hello,

    I believe the complete serial to be MS853, a Miles Martinet TT.I. 41 TT.Is were supplied to France 1944-48. I have a photo of a Martinet in French service, marked "MS563". The aircraft is reportedly in the Mediterranean area, it is parked in the front of a hangar and marked with a French roundel and a "White"? I6.

    See:
    ARMEE DE L'AIR A Pictorial History of the French Air Force 1937-1945.
    Camelio,Paul & Christopher Shores.
    Warren:Squadron Signal Publications,1976.
    p.56.

    A-B's RAF Aircraft MA100 - MZ999 (1991),p.102, states that Martinet I MS853 served only on 54 OTU and was S.O.C. 18.2.47 (probably just an inventory tidying up date). Other known examples of MS-serialled French T.I's are: MS797, MS798, MS799, MS800, MS851, MS907, MS909 & MS926.

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    Thank you very much for this collective response. Without a doubt the Miles Martinet TT.I. MS853 is this plane. Although SOC was given in 1947 the French used it at the Beirut Base from May 1945 in the SAL 377. Last flight 5/9/1945.
    Note that the last plane of English origin used by the SAL 377 were the Blenheim V No. 306 and 994 in autumn 1946.

    Bertrand

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    Hello,

    The term S.O.C. was used by the British purely as a book term. They went looking for the aircraft in 1947 and probably couldn't locate it, so wrote it off.

    Blenheim "306" = Mk.V BA306 - To FFAF 28.2.46
    Blenheim "994" = Mk.V BA994 - 16 SAAF/162 - To FFAF 27.4.44

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