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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan View Post

    The airman in question Flying Officer Ramesh Chandra DATTA (130517) lost in Lancaster III ED923 Date of Crash: 09 Jul 43 97 Sqdn

    This put me in touch with his family in UK, and they pointed out his correct name was Ramesh Chandra DUTTA

    CWGC has agreed to amend their records and also order a new headstone to mark the change in name. A copy of his original RAF Service Record, GAzette Entries and finally contact directly from DUTTA's son helped seal the case.

    EDIT: Corrected Name now visible https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...tails/2777397/
    Last edited by Jagan; 15th September 2020 at 00:35.

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    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...hp?qnum=110199

    Sgt Alan Doughty Shuckburgh of 603 Squadron RAF had a twin brother P/O John Shirley Shuckburgh of 54 Squadron RAF. There appears to be an anomaly regarding these pilot brothers is that this RAF commands CWGC website shows Alan Doughty Shuckburgh as service number 904834. However, 904834 John Shirley Shuckburgh was promoted pilot office on probation on 15th January 1941, gazetted 24 March the 1941 and subsequently the London Gazette 2nd May 1941 shows Sgt J S Shuckburgh as 904834 promoted pilot office on probation (62251) to correct a misspelt surname. Again an error because future gazette enties show his service number as 62241. Is their an error on CWGC records or were there errors in gazetting John Shirley Shuckburgh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ademottram View Post
    However, 904834 John Shirley Shuckburgh was promoted pilot office on probation on 15th January 1941, gazetted 24 March the 1941 and subsequently the London Gazette 2nd May 1941 shows Sgt J S Shuckburgh as 904834 ?
    I think LG is in error. This link https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk...tryAward=False shows that J S Shuckburgh is 904331 and AD is 940834. The data is based on AIR78 index and I am sure you will find a manual verification of AIR78 will confirm this.

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    This may have been covered before

    SERGEANT JOHN JOSEPH BRIMBLE

    Service Number: 741563
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    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve


    73 Sqdn.
    Date of Death
    Died 14 September 1940
    Age 23 years old


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of William Henry and Emily Annie Brimble, of Knowle, Bristol.



    He comes up twice on CWGC Search Result : https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...viceNum=741563


    Individual Pages.

    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...tails/3078900/ BROOKWOOD MILITARY CEMETERY 24. D. 13. United Kingdom

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    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...ails/75191361/ SITTINGBOURNE CEMETERY Old Ground. Sect. W. Grave 49. United Kingdom

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    Missing Service Numbers in CWGC



    Column8 Column1 Column2 SERVICENUM CWGCID Date
    Group Captain GREENLAW ROBERT RITCHIE 15057 2218255 18-01-43
    Group Captain WEBB ERIC BINGHAM 16212 2234835 02-04-42
    Group Captain HODDER FRANCIS SAMUEL 19243 2047526 06-09-43
    Group Captain TAYLOR ALEXANDER E. 22030 2735392 20-12-45
    Group Captain GRIFFITHS JOHN FRANCIS 24037 2726458 09-05-45
    Group Captain WHEELER HARRY GEORGE 26004 937439 21-09-43
    Group Captain MacCALLUM JOHN EVELYN MATIER 26039 2690116 16-10-43
    Air Commodore WAGHORN DAVID JOHN 26046 2421638 01-04-45
    Group Captain HOMER JOHN WOOD 26056 2178288 18-07-44
    Group Captain POWELL JOHN ALEXANDER 26122 2224344 18-08-44
    Group Captain JORDAN REGINALD CHARLES 28072 1082415 23-06-43
    Group Captain MATSON BERNARD NELSON 28158 2177499 04-05-44
    Group Captain GOODHART JACK 32077 2723246 21-01-44
    Group Captain HARDS ALAN FREDERICK 33113 2834408 18-01-46
    Group Captain JEUDWINE JOHN RAYMOND 33116 2651237 19-10-45
    Group Captain OGILVIE PATRICK BRUCE BINE 36025 1803557 11-12-44
    Group Captain STANNARD DAVID WILLIAM 36119 2701603 28-07-43

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    Wrong date for

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?qnum=39430Sergeant Clifford John ROWLANDS (1624754)


    CWGC https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...clifford-john/ has him as Died 05 September 1944

    Their own document shows it as 25 9 44
    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi.../#&gid=1&pid=2

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    Brimble there is a peculiar case. The Brookwood burial is related to remains discovered in 1980 by people excavating a wreck no 14 Sep 1980, whereas the Sittingbourne burial has an Unknown burial given a name at a later date.

    Brookwood burial is dated 16 Oct 1980 but a concentration report there has a 17 Oct 1918 exhumation report mentioned.
    Both burials records refer to one another.

    Jagan, just wondering are you submitting these to CWGC nowadays, I have terribly slacked off due to a WW1 project I've been trying to finish this year.
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    Hi Dennis, Sorry, I havent submitted any records - I only did the R C Dutta submission till date. Again, no pressure or hurry - at some point we can catch up on this.

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    I submitted Rowlands there, its clear enough the error from their own records and I was able to send them Form 765 and 412 from the Canadian mans S/R.
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