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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 23-5-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    F/O (Pilot) Robert BRUCE - 74715;
    AC2 Edward C. BRYANT - 1381681;
    LAC Gordon J. BURKLE - 1263121;
    AC2 John EVANS - 1068014;
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Michael G. FERNAU - 959799;
    AC1 Arthur GOULDING - 965130;
    AC2 Eric HOWARTH - 1401166;
    LAC Sydney P. PALMER - 626513;
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Brian H. RICHARDS - 1182508;
    AC2 Peter S. STOREY - 1257748, and
    AC1 John E. THOMPSON - 1191611.

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Hemley I - L3298 - 1 AACU - crashed in forced landing near Weybourne, Norfolk.
    Oxford I - V3221 - 14 FTS - crashed on approach mile E of Sibson.
    Oxford II - V3777 - 6 FTS - collided with another Oxford (Air Britain with V3777 !!!) and crashed near Little Rissington.
    Tutor I - K3236 - CFS - crashed on approach Alton Barnes LG.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    Bruce,26, registered in Huntingdon N, right, at the time, for Sibson,
    Burkle,25, and Richards,20, registered at N Cotswold. Gloucestershire, right for Little Rissington
    Evans,20, registered at Sleaford, Lincolnshire
    Howarth,20, registered at Buckrose Yorkshire.
    Palmer, 20, registered at Weymouth, Dorset
    Thompson,20, registered at Ely
    Bryant didn't come up but CWGC has him on Runnymede which might explain no registration.
    Neither Furnau or Golding came up on the registers or on CWGC
    Storey/Story is on CWGC but not on the register and may have died outside England or Wales
    Regards
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    Henk

    Bruce & Fernau at North Huntingdon (Peterborough area) but I have no incident in this area on this date.

    Richards at North Cotswold, Oxford V3777. (I don't know what the other a/c was)

    Will look at the others later unless beaten to it.

    regards

    DaveW

    PS I see that I have already been beaten to it!
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    Correction to my earlier post, I do indeed have an incident in Hunts (I had mistakenly labelled Sibson as being in Northants)

    Oxford V3221, 1/2 mile E of Sibson 23/5/41

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    Hi Henk
    It looks like Fernau didn't come up on the register or CWGC because of a mis-spelling.
    We can all consider ourselves absolved from mis-spelling,even CWGC has his wife as Pamela Fernay!!
    Regards
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    Thanks Dave & Dick for your help.

    Dick: Where did you find that AC2 Edward C. BRYANT - 1381681 is mentioned on the Runnymede Memorial ? I've him buried at Wembley (Alperton) Burial Ground, and his name is neither in the Runnymede Register (Edition 1953) nor in the Addenda.

    I indeed forgot to mention that AC2 John EVANS - 1068014 is mentioned on the Runnymede Memorial Panel 290 (Addenda Register Part 15, page 933). Is it correct that his death was registered at Sleaford, Lincolnshire ?

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    Hi Henk
    I honestly don't know how I came to put Bryant on the Runnymede Memorial. He didn't show up on the England and Wales register. The only one I found was an Edgar M Bryant,19 at Bridgend in S Wales.
    I did find, from a long list of Evans's a John Evans,20, at Sleaford. the others were far too old. Until you mentioned it I didn't look at CWGC so missed him at Runnymede, I note that CWGC doesn't give an age. If he is on Runnymede, as he seems to be, then a death registration is unlikely ,unless they lost his grave before the Memorial was set up. It would be better if the Sleaford registration was put to one side,bearing in mind that the lists I look at are not dated,but merely in 3 month blocks
    Apologies if I have been misleading
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    No problems at all Dick; thanks for confirmation.
    Best regards,
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    F/O (Pilot) Robert BRUCE - 74715; Huntingdon N - KOAS - scanned as F/O. R. Urn.-,
    AC2 Edward C. BRYANT - 1381681; East Elloe, - DOAS
    LAC Gordon J. BURKLE - 1263121; N Cotswold KOAS - Scanned as 1. A C G, .1, lliirklc
    AC2 John EVANS - 1068014; High panel number and he is not on the GRO RAF list. Likely listed as AC2 J Evan DOAS Aug 7th magazine
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Michael G. FERNAU - 959799;--->Found KOAS, scanned as L.A/C. M. (I. Fi-rriau;
    AC1 Arthur GOULDING - 965130; --------------> Cannot find in Casualty lists
    AC2 Eric HOWARTH - 1401166; Buckrose DOAS
    LAC Sydney P. PALMER - 626513; Weymouth Cannot find in Casualty lists
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Brian H. RICHARDS - 1182508; N Cotswold KOAS scanned as L.A/C. B 11 Richards:
    AC2 Peter S. STOREY - 1257748, ------------->DOAS
    AC1 John E. THOMPSON - 1191611. Ely DOAs
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 4th November 2009 at 20:49. Reason: Finally found status for Bruce, Burkle, Fernau and Richards
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    Neither Storey or Goulding appear on the Scotland register within the limits of my search abilities.
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