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    Thanks - No wonder could not find it the late Bill Walker had

    North American Harvard 2712
    Category A damage on "8 August 1941" at Athol Bay, Ontario (check dates?). With Central Training School at Picton, Ontario at that time. Had 332:25 airframe time when struck off. last date: 20 May 1941

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    Jean Eugene Battaglia R/81397 RCAf

    https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remem...detail/7531976

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    August 20, 1907 Paris, France

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    Some New Zealand records below.

    Cheers, Andrew

    Leading Aircraftman Kennard James HAASE (402181) RNZAF. Navigator. 2 SFTS. RNZAF Woodbourne.
    Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ326 / ex-RAF serial: K4718).
    Drowned in aircraft accident. When low flying, the wing of the aircraft struck powerlines and crashed into Manawatu River near Foxton, NZ. LAC Cecil William HOLMES (Pilot) was injured and saved by a nearby worker. HOLMES wasn’t feeling well and lost consciousness when HAASE was taking over control at the time of the accident.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me.../record/C25186
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm

    Leading Aircraftman Angus Victor Macleod GILMOUR (402457) RNZAF. Navigator. 2 SFTS. RNZAF Woodbourne. Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ354 / ex-RAF serial: K6348).
    LAC SUISTED and LAC GILMOUR in NZ354 were on a training flight near Blenheim, NZ. They encountered foggy conditions, crashed into the tops of hills and were killed immediately. NZ340 which also crashed in similar circumstances was flying separately but both crashed within 45 minutes of each other.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-12-1941

    Leading Aircraftman William Frederick READER (402898) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 SFTS. RNZAF Woodbourne.
    Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ340 / ex-RAF serial: K6327).
    LAC READER and LAC LLEWELLYN in NZ340 were on a training flight near Blenheim, NZ. They encountered foggy conditions, crashed into the tops of hills and were killed immediately. NZ354 which also crashed in similar circumstances was flying separately but both crashed within 45 minutes of each other.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-12-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Rodney Albert LLEWELLYN (402878) RNZAF. Navigator. 2 SFTS. RNZAF Woodbourne. Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ340 / ex-RAF serial: K6327).
    LAC READER and LAC LLEWELLYN in NZ340 were on a training flight near Blenheim, NZ. They encountered foggy conditions, crashed into the tops of hills and were killed immediately. NZ354 which also crashed in similar circumstances was flying separately but both crashed within 45 minutes of each other.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-12-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Guy Wilfred SUISTED (403123) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 SFTS. RNZAF Woodbourne.
    Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ354 / ex-RAF serial: K6348).
    LAC SUISTED and LAC GILMOUR in NZ354 were on a training flight near Blenheim, NZ. They encountered foggy conditions, crashed into the tops of hills and were killed immediately. NZ340 which also crashed in similar circumstances was flying separately but both crashed within 45 minutes of each other.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-12-1941

    Leading Aircraftman James Martin Stanton SCHWARTFEGER (402532) RNZAF. Patrolman (station security guard). RNZAF Whenuapai.
    Died from a serious illness that lasted some weeks at Auckland Hospital.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-12-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Allan Henry McIVER (403466) RNZAF. 1 SFTS. RNZAF Wigram
    Airspeed Oxford (RNZAF serial: NZ256 / ex-RAF serial: P1953).
    Crashed two miles from the aerodrome during night flying exercises. Believed to have overshot the flarepath and during recovery flew into the ground.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...1&snippet=true

    Leading Aircraftman Desmond Thomas Francis HANRAHAN (404869) RNZAF. Pilot. 1 EFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ705 (construction no: 3936). Killed as a result of a collision in the landing approach between two aircraft at RNZAF Taieri. Hanrahan was the sole occupant and the two crew in the other aircraft were injured.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=30-06-1941

    Leading Aircraftman William Gordon STEPHENS (404422) RNZAF. Pilot. 3 EFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ886 (construction no: 82897 / ex-RAF serial: R4987).
    Killed instantly when collided at 800 feet with another aircraft while on solo training flights near RNZAF Harewood. The other pilot, LAC Walter John WILLIS, was injured either in the collision and/or the subsequent forced landing.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm

    Pilot Officer William Keith ANDERSON (40954) RNZAF.
    Death occurred at Christchurch
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=30-03-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Evan Roy ARCHER (403114) RNZAF. Pilot. 3 SFTS, Ohakea.
    Hawker Hind RNZAF serial: NZ1507 (ex-RAF serial: K6672).
    Killed when two aircraft collided during formation flying between Shannon and Levin. LAC Thomas Gordan GRIFFITHS (the other pilot) was not injured.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzhind.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=30-03-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Frank Robert TRAYNOR (402529) RNZAF. Pilot. 4 EFTS, RNZAF Whenuapai.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ680 (construction no: 83532 / ex-RAF serial: T5781).
    Died in aircraft crash near Otahuhu. TRAYNOR was flying solo, the aircraft went into a spin at 3,000 feet and lost one of its wings.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm

    Leading Aircraftman Gerald Livingstone HEWITT (405270) RNZAF. 3 EFTS.
    Drowned when the car he was travelling in crashed into the Avon River in Fendalton with six others. Two others drowned and four were rescued.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-07-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Alan Harris HALL (391148) RNZAF. Wireless Operator at a transmission station.
    Electrocuted after coming into contact with a wireless transmitter at RNZAF Ohakea.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-05-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Edwin Chaytor MOORE (41349) RNZAF. Pilot. 4 EFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ790 (construction no: DHNZ40).
    Died in accidental crash. Moore was flying solo, circled to about 200 feet, the aircraft slipped to the left and crashed into the ground.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-05-1941

    Aircraftman 1st Class James Edward MURPHY (401325) RNZAF. 2 Squadron, RNZAF.
    Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ357 / ex-RAF serial: K6353).
    The aircraft was flying between 3,000 to 4,000 feet when the engine suddenly stopped and went into a glide. Pilot Officer Vernon Wellington RAYMOND (Pilot) attempted to land at what looked to be a suitable emergency landing ground but turned out to be a hill. Both MURPHY and RAYMOND were killed. Corporal Eric WHITLEY and Corporal John George WATT were injured.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=01-03-1941

    Pilot Officer Vernon Wellington RAYMOND (402213) RNZAF. 2 Squadron, RNZAF.
    Vickers Vincent (RNZAF serial: NZ357 / ex-RAF serial: K6353).
    The aircraft was flying between 3,000 to 4,000 feet when the engine suddenly stopped and went into a glide. Pilot Officer Vernon Wellington RAYMOND (Pilot) attempted to land at what looked to be a suitable emergency landing ground but turned out to be a hill. Both RAYMOND and AC1 James Edward MURPHY were killed. Corporals Eric WHITLEY and John George WATT were injured.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzvincent.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=01-03-1941

    Aircraftman 1st Class Lindo James THOMSON (391981) RNZAF. Wireless Operator. 2 Squadron, RNZAF.
    Vickers Vildebeest Mk II (RNZAF serial: NZ117 / ex-RAF serial: K4187).
    Aircraft took off from airfield but soon returned with thick smoke pouring from exhaust. Made a steep turn at 100 feet, stalled and dived into ground at Nelson. Flt Lt Lionel Mountjoy SQUIRE and AC1 Lindo James THOMSON were both killed in the crash while Corporal Ernest Ivan JOHNSON died later in Nelson Hospital from burns and shock.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-ser...vildebeest.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-07-1941

    Flight Lieutenant Lionel Mountjoy SQUIRE (2525) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 Squadron, RNZAF.
    Vickers Vildebeest Mk II (RNZAF serial: NZ117 / ex-RAF serial: K4187).
    Aircraft took off from airfield but soon returned with thick smoke pouring from exhaust. Made a steep turn at 100 feet, stalled and dived into ground at Nelson. Flt Lt Lionel Mountjoy SQUIRE and AC1 Lindo James THOMSON were both killed in the crash while Corporal Ernest Ivan JOHNSON died later in Nelson Hospital from burns and shock.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-ser...vildebeest.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-07-1941

    Corporal Ernest Ivan JOHNSON (39662) RNZAF. 2 SFTS.
    Vickers Vildebeest Mk II (RNZAF serial: NZ117 / ex-RAF serial: K4187).
    Aircraft took off from airfield but soon returned with thick smoke pouring from exhaust. Made a steep turn at 100 feet, stalled and dived into ground at Nelson. Flt Lt Lionel Mountjoy SQUIRE and AC1 Lindo James THOMSON were both killed in the crash while Corporal Ernest Ivan JOHNSON died later in Nelson Hospital from burns and shock.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-ser...vildebeest.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-07-1941

    Pilot Officer Bertrand William BUTLER (403421) RNZAF. Pilot. Flying Instructors School, Hobsonville, RNZAF. Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ721 (construction no: 3697).
    Aircraft was in a climbing turn when it entered a spin but insufficient height to recover and crashed into Castor Bay. P/O BUTLER drowned while P/O Maurice Harry HOY suffered injuries and was rescued was rescued.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-07-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Alec HAIGH (41326) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 SFTS.
    Airspeed Oxford RNZAF serial: NZ1276 (construction no: 2681 / ex-RAF serial: R6217).
    In a formation of three aircraft, two collided near Cape Campbell and HAIGH’s aircraft fell into the sea. The other aircraft piloted by LAC John Joseph FOX made a forced landing on the beach. HAIGH’s body was never found.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=01-05-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Selwyn Allan SINCLAIR (41945) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 SFTS.
    Airspeed Oxford RNZAF serial: NZ1302 (construction no: 553 / ex-RAF serial: P8846).
    LAC SINCLAIR went missing when out on a training navigation flight. The aircraft and Sinclair’s remains were found in the Tararua Ranges in April 1980.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Albert MAHER (405849) RNZAF. Pilot. 1 SFTS.
    Airspeed Oxford RNZAF serial: NZ1296 (construction no: 547 / ex-RAF serial: P8840).
    Aircraft went out of control and crashed just after take-off at RNZAF Wigram. Maher was believed to have died instantly.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Louis Frants Josef PFEFFER (412050) RNZAF. Patrolman.
    Died from illness.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Morris Desmond JURGENS (411906) RNZAF. Pilot. 2 SFTS.
    North American Harvard RNZAF serial: NZ951 (NAA construction no: 66-2764)
    Aircraft recovered from dive at 7,000 feet and then lost height. LAC JURGENS was killed attempting to parachute of which he was sole occupant. Evidence indicates parachute fouled on aircraft.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzharvard.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Keith Millen McCULLOCH (413544) RNZAF. 4 EFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ673 (construction no: 83500 / ex-RAF serial: T5771).
    Killed when the aircraft crashed near Riverhead. P/O Athol FOSTER also in the same aircraft was also killed.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm

    Pilot Officer Athol FOSTER (40967) RNZAF. Pilot. 4 EFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ673 (construction no: 83500 / ex-RAF serial: T5771).
    Killed when the aircraft crashed near Riverhead. LAC Keith Millen McCulloch also in the same aircraft was also killed.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm

    Leading Aircraftman Arthur Ormond HATHAWAY (412687) RNZAF. 2 SFTS.
    North American Harvard RNZAF serial: NZ921 (NAA construction no: 66-2787)
    Killed in a crash when preparing to come into land while undertaking night flying training. LAC HATHAWAY was the sole occupant.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzharvard.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Robert John McQUILLAN (391931) RNZAF.
    Died under anaesthetic while undergoing an operation
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Ronald James BROWN (411365) RNZAF. Pilot. RNZAF Wigram
    Airspeed Oxford (RNZAF serial: NZ252 / ex-RAF serial: L4592).
    Aircraft stalled and crashed on landing approach. LAC BROWN suffered serious injuries and later died in Christchurch Public Hospital. LAC MARSHALL, also in the aircraft, died instantly.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Norman Joseph Graham MARSHALL (411921) RNZAF. Observer. RNZAF Wigram
    Airspeed Oxford (RNZAF serial: NZ252 / ex-RAF serial: L4592).
    Aircraft stalled and crashed on landing approach. LAC MARSHALL died instantly. LAC BROWN, also in the aircraft, suffered serious injuries and later died in Christchurch Public Hospital.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzoxford.htm
    https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...ate=31-10-1941

    Leading Aircraftman Arthur Louis SKINNER (412378) RNZAF. Pilot. 3 SFTS.
    Hawker Hind RNZAF serial: NZ1504 (ex-RAF serial: K6761).
    Killed when the aircraft flew into a target-towing wire and spun into the sea during training.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzhind.htm

    Leading Aircraftman Bryan Walter LAMBOURNE (413860) RNZAF. Pilot. 3 SFTS.
    Tiger Moth RNZAF serial: NZ883 (construction no: 82889 / ex-RAF serial: R4979).
    Killed when aircraft crashed after entered a spin which could not be controlled during dual training instruction. P/O Kenneth Sinclair BLAIR baled out and was not injured.
    http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-me...otaph%2Fsearch
    http://www.adf-serials.com.au/nz-serials/nzdh82.htm

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    Canada Updates to Jagan list - Aircraft Serials where appropriate

    Confirmed by Clipped Wings (Colin Cummins et al)

    Flying Officer David SMITH (C/1192) 1941-05-04 on North American Harvard #3809

    Sergeant John Frederick Vincent KARLENZIG on North American Harvard 2838 1941-06-03


    And an aircraft ID for

    Leading Aircraftman Douglas Beatty LEACH (R/91533) 1941-06-10

    Tiger Moth crashed . 32 SFTS RCAF - 4m S of Moose Jaw.

    Clipped Wings; Tiger Moth 4219

    Bill Walker:

    Category A damage on 10 June 1941 while with No. 15 Elementary Flying Training School at Regina, Saskatchewan.

    Thanks Paul

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    Hello

    Frank SPIKINS (43569) - not 12 Squadron, but 612 Sqn. Ross McNeill in Coastal Command Loses, Volume 1, page 172 1 has him on Whitley V Z6810 WL-A. It was presumed ditched between Prestwick and Reykjavik after being diverted to Wick due to bad weather with the loss of crew and three pasengers, one of whom was Spikins, the Squadron's Torpedo Officer.

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    Hello again

    Just having a look at the Egypt casualties, and found some info for these five:

    Richard Douglas RUSHTON (652008) and
    Austin Luis Hugo SOLANO (37511)
    The 203 Sqn ORB Form 540 records that they failed to return in Blenheim T2053 on February 18th 1941 with Sgt. Sutton as the third crew member.
    Air AIR81/5181 appears to record them all as P.o.W. here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16689279
    However, see: http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/italy_veronese.htm
    'Early in the morning of 18 February 1941 two Blenheim IVFs of 203 Squadron from Aden again strafed Makale airfield. Veronese attacked and shot down Blenheim T2053, flown by Squadron Leader A.L.H. Solano, the aircraft force-landed in the Piana del Sale with two of the crew dead.'

    Arthur Jefferson NEAL (759100)
    Leslie NUTTALL (566274) and
    Gaston Richard THISTLE (539346)
    Gunby and Temple's Bomber Command Losses Middle East, Volume 1, page 52 has them in Blenheim IV L8612, shot down by ground fire attacking German troops at the Monastir Gap.

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    Some more Canadian Burials to June 30 1941

    Pilot Officer Geoffrey Fylton MACKIE (J/3470) 1941-02-15 Canada Vernon Coldstream Cemetery

    Killed when RCAF Training Plane Crashed near Point Anne. Eyewitnesses said the plane nose-dived onto the ice
    of the Bay of Quinie and eninge buried itself in 20 inches of ice. Pilot thrown from cockpit and body
    found some distance from wreckage

    From Bill Walker Web Site

    North American Harvard 1344

    Serving with Central Flying School, RCAF Station Trenton, Ontario, when it crashed into the Bay of Quinte at 10:10 on 15 February 1941. Had 795:45 logged time when struck off.



    Leading Aircraftman Lloyd George LEE (R/72438) 1941-02-21 Canada Chatsworth (Shiloh) Cemetery

    Leading Aircraftman Lee was killed in the crash of his Harvard (#2590) aircraft crashed near Metcalfe, Ontario, Canada.

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...oyd-george-lee

    Category A damage on 21 February 1941 while serving at No. 2 Service Flying Training School, Uplands, Ontario. Had 342:10 airframe time when struck off.





    Leading Aircraftman Lloyd Ross LANCASTER (R/52101) 1941-02-25 Canada Rodney (Mclean) Cemetery Ref : Plot 31. Row 2. Lot 5.
    Sergeant William Henry PREST (R/64134) 1941-02-25 Canada Niagara Falls (St. John's) Cem

    Avro Anson Mk I 6250 1 ANS RCAF

    https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=204895


    Crew (all killed):
    Sgt Joseph Goodwin Butcher (pilot, 25, from Carman, Manitoba)
    Sgt William Henry Prest (observer, 20, from Lucknow, Ontario)
    Sgt Harry Albert Howarth (observer, 19, from London, Ontario)
    LAC Lloyd Ross Lancaster (wireless operator, 23, from Rodney, Ontario)


    Leading Aircraftman Chesley Albert KELLOWAY (798564) 1941-03-02 Canada Barrie Union Cemetery
    Chesley Albert Kelloway, age 22 was laid to rest with full R.C.A.F. honours in Barrie Union cemetery after His plane
    crashed to the landing field about a mile from the aerodrome at Camp Borden while flying at night about 11;25 p.m. Sunday.
    He was flying solo, about 200-300 feet in a "Yale" training Machine at No.1 Service Flying Training School, Camp Borden
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...lbert-kelloway

    Maybe North American Harvard 2622 - Would Like Confirmation - The Yale report comes from a newspaper report

    Category A damage on 2 March 1941 while at No. 1 Service Flying Training School, Camp Borden, Ontario. Had 291:30 airframe time when struck off.


    Pilot Officer Charles GILLARD (J/3109) 1941-03-12 Canada Burnaby Masonic Cemetery Ref : Plot 10B. Sec. G. Grave 4.
    Leading Aircraftman Eric Henry WILLIAMS (R/54298) 1941-03-12 Canada Ottawa (Pinecrest) Cemetery
    Collsion between 2 bombing training planes at No 8 Air Training School Moncton. NB
    Charles 'Chuck' Gillard

    LAC D C Code Missing - Injured
    LAC David J Patton of Islington Ont bailed Out and landed Safely
    8 Air Training Shool Moncton between Painsee and Meadowbrook stations of the CNR

    Anson: 6357
    Category A crash at Lakeburn Airport, at 12:20 on 12 March 1941, following a mid-air collision with Anson 6273
    during formation landing. Came down near Painsec, NB (2 miles east of Moncton aerodrome).
    Had 43:55 logged time when struck off. Scrapped by No. 8 SFTS.

    Anson: 6273
    Resulted from mid-air collision on break away from Anson 6357 during formation landing. Came down near Painsec, NB (now part of Moncton, 2 miles east of Lakeburn Airport). Had 65:35 logged time when struck off. Scrapped by No. 8 SFTS

    I think Cole with GILLARD but who on which plane then unknown at present


    Also for: 1941-03-12


    Gurney De Lois BARRETT (R/72444)
    William Lewis Nick STARKEY (R/67700)
    Starkey's R.C.A.F. Service File records that he was killed in Anson W1667,
    which collided with another aircraft on the outskirts of Saskatoon. It's not clear if Barrett was on the
    same aircraft or not, but he was killed in the same incident.

    Anson W1667 = RACF 6242 Ex RAF W1667. Category A crash at Saskatoon at 14:00 on 12 March 1941, mid-air with Anson 6103 during formation flying.

    The other Anson was #6103 (possibly BARRETT)

    Ex RAF W1514. Used by No. 4 Service Flying Training School at Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Category A crash at Saskatoon at 14:00 on 12 March 1941, result of a mid-air during formation flying.



    Leading Aircraftman William Strongren MURRAY (R/58529) 1941-03-20 Canada Summerside People's Cemetery
    Plane Crash at Smith's Creek NB
    "Harvard"

    http://rcafsummerside.blogspot.com/2...V7NJQWRn6H2qQN
    March 20, 1941: (R/58529) LAC William Strongren Murray, Chilliwack, B.C., was killed in flying accident. He was piloting Harvard 2907 during a formation exercise. He flew into high ground near Sussex, New Brunswick during a blinding snow storm.
    Harvard 2907 "Category A damage on 20 March 1941 while with No. 9 Service Flying Training School at Summerside, PEI."



    Flying Officer Alexander Francis Michael MACLEAN (40548) 1941-04-28 Canada Medicine Hat (Hillside) Cemete Ref : Lot 15. Block 139D. Sec. C.
    Leading Aircraftman Eric WALTON (1160141) 1941-04-28 Canada Medicine Hat (Hillside) Cemete

    Probably: North American Harvard 2719

    Served at No. 32 SFTS at Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Category A damage on 28 April 1941 while with No. 34 Service Flying Training School at Medicine Hat, Alberta, destroyed by fire. Had 149:35 airframe time at that time.


    http://www.chwarmemorial.org.uk/

    FLIGHT LIEUT. ALEXANDER FRANCIS MICHAEL MACLEAN.
    (Th. B, 1928-32).
    A. F. M. Maclean obtained a short service commission in. the R.A.F.
    four years ago and had served in Canada as an Instructor. He was killed
    on active service in April, 1941.


    Leading Aircraftman Herbert John ROWE (400489) 1941-05-25 Canada Saskatoon (Woodlawn) Cemetery

    RAAF FATALITIES IN SECOND WORLD WAR AMONG
    RAAF PERSONNEL SERVING ON ATTACHMENT
    IN ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE SQUADRONS AND
    SUPPORT UNITS

    400489 Leading Aircraftsman ROWE, Herbert John

    Source:

    AWM 237 (65) NAA : A705, 163/158/124 Commonwealth War Graves records
    Aircraft Type: Crane
    Serial number: 7715
    Radio call sign:
    Unit: 4 Sevice Flg Trg School RCAF

    Summary:

    On the 25th May 1941, Crane 7715 on a solo night practice flight, crashed two miles
    north west of Vanscoy, Saskatoon Canada. The Pilot was killed.

    Crew:

    RAAF 400489 LAC H J Rowe, (Pupil Pilot) †

    LAC Rowe is buried in the Saskatoon (Woodlawn) Cemetery, Canada.
    In Memory of
    Leading Aircraftman
    Herbert John Rowe
    400489, Royal Australian Air Force
    who died on 25 May 1941 Age 21
    Husband of Gwen I. M. Rowe, of Elwood, Victoria, Australia.
    Remembered with Honour
    Saskatoon (Woodlawn) Cemetery


    Leading Aircraftman Albert Anthony LEWIS (R/77452) 1941-05-30 Canada Montreal (Notre Dame Des Neige Ref : Sec. 3. Lot 1806, Grave 2594.

    R/77452 - L.A.C. Albert Anthony Lewis (brother) - R.C.A.F. - died 30/31 May 1941 - Age 19
    born abt. 1922, Montreal, Canada
    Son of Alfred "Frederick" Daniel Lewis and Mary A. Lewis, of Montreal
    Sec. 3. - Lot 1806 - Grave 2594 - MONTREAL (NOTRE DAME DES NEIGES) CEMETERY - CWGC ref. 2688165

    Injured May 26th 1941 in Air Crash at Riguad Quebec - Died 4 days later

    Fleet Finch II #4410

    To No. 3 Training Command on 25 March 1941, for use by No. 13 Elementary Flying Training School at St. Eugene, Ontario.
    Category A damage at 15:30 on 26 May 1941 at St-Marthe, PQ. Had 674:50 airframe time when it crashed. Scrapped at No. 12 (Equipment) Depot in Montreal.



    Leading Aircraftman David Allenby ROBINSON (402808) 1941-05-30 Canada Barrie Union Cemetery
    Harvard II #2836 At Alliston Ontario 30/05/41 Fatal: LAC D A Robinson Serv#402808
    Category A crash (fatal) on 30 May 1941 while with No. 1 Service Flying Training School at Camp Borden, Ontario. Destroyed by fire.




    Leading Aircraftman Glen Cameron FLETCHER (R/56420) 1941-06-01 Canada Stratford (Avondale) Cemetery Ref : Sec. G. Plot 90.
    Leading Aircraftman Bonar Lloyd ROBERTSON (R/56271) 1941-06-01 Canada Montreal (Mount Royal) Cemeter
    North American Harvard AH196
    Received from RAF in North America. With No. 9 Service Flying Training School at Summerside, PEI when it crashed on 1 June 1941 at Cavendish, PEI. Had 38:30 airframe time when struck off.
    Note Glen 'M' Cameron FLETCHER (R/56420)


    Leading Aircraftman Wilfred John Peter TIBBITS (403081) 1941-06-13 Canada Yorkton Cemetery Ref : Block 5. Lot 80. Grave C.
    11 Service Flying Training School RCAF
    killed on Friday, June 13, in Canada, when the trainer he was flying solo crashed
    Believed: North American Harvard 3798
    Category A damage on 13 June 1941, while with No. 11 Service Flying Training School at Yorkton, Saskatchewan.


    Sergeant Douglas Erwin HALL (R/61645) 1941-06-20 Canada Danville Protestant Cemetery Ref : Lot 6. Range 3. Row 1. Grave 5.
    Killed in flying accident near Prince Albert Sask on "June 21st"

    Need Aircraft ID

    Leading Aircraftman Robert Henry STEVENS (R/74708) 1941-06-20 Canada St. Thomas (Elmdale) Memorial
    http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/08824.php
    STEVENS, Robert Henry LAC(P) R74708 - under training. From Vancouver, British Columbia.
    Killed June 21, 1941 age 21. Harvard 2825 was engaged in flying training sequences 6,7,8,10,13 and 32
    when it dove into the ground 1%BD m. SE. of Kohler, Ontario, this was a solo exercise.
    Leading Aircraftman Stevens is buried in Elmsdale Memorial Park, St. Thomas, Ontario.

    NOTE Correction to Name: Robert NOT Robin

    Date of the crash is reported to be June 21st, but newspaper report confirms Friday June 20th 1941

    https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remem...detail/2265276

    Need to Check date: North Ameerican Harvard 2825
    Category A damage on 21 June 1941 while with No. 6 Service Flying Training School, Dunnville, Ontario. Had 332:30 airframe time when struck off.

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    Updates/Corrections

    Leading Aircraftman Chesley Albert KELLOWAY (798564) 1941-03-02 Canada Barrie Union Cemetery
    Clipped Wings confirms North American Harvard 2622 - The "Yale" comes from an incorrect newspaper report



    Pilot Officer Charles GILLARD (J/3109) 1941-03-12 Canada Burnaby Masonic Cemetery Ref : Plot 10B. Sec. G. Grave 4.
    Leading Aircraftman Eric Henry WILLIAMS (R/54298) 1941-03-12 Canada Ottawa (Pinecrest) Cemetery

    Correct Allocation is as follows

    Anson 6357
    P/O Charles GILLARD (J/3109) Aged 25 RCAF Killed
    LAC Donovan Currie Cole Seriously Injured R62381 (Pupil Pilot)
    LAC John David McCosh Patton R69857 RCAF Uninjured Bailed Out (Pupil Pilot) -> later Commisoned from Sgt May 1941 (J.5111)

    Also Updates Clipped Wings Vol 2 for the '3 On Board'


    Anson 6273
    LAC Eric Henry WILLIAMS (R/54298) Pilot Killed (Flying Solo)

    Full incident report and cause can be found here http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/08663.php



    Gurney De Lois BARRETT (R/72444) 1941-03-12
    William Lewis Nick STARKEY (R/67700) 1941-03-12

    Both on Anson 6242 ex W1667


    Additionally update for Clipped Wings Vol 2 Page 110

    N9652 Anson 1 March 1941 "No Refrence to LAC Flower could be found in the CWGC Records" becauase not killed injured

    The following were lost when Anson N9652 and N9595 collided at Bradford, near Camp Borden:

    N9595:
    Henry DODSWORTH (561105)
    Eric Alfred RUNDELL (927867)
    Stanley PORTER (990449)
    Colin Trevor DOUGLAS (619059)

    John Langfield Flower #915694 Seriously Injured

    N9652:
    John Clydesdale BELL (580239)
    Maurice Godfrey FOLKARD (999012)
    Ivor Wilfred JACKSON (1153084)



    Leading Aircraftsman (Actually AC2) - John Langfield Flower #915694 Injured

    March 14, 1941
    The Ottawa Journal from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada • Page 5


    Friday. March 14, 1941. Seven English Airnien Killed In 'Plane Collision Near Borden One Severely Injured Survivor Insists Doctor Leave Him to Help His Dying Mates Taken From Wreckage of Two Ships BOND HEAD, Ont., March 13 (CP) Crash of two Avro-Anson bombing planes after a mid-air collision near tljls village today took the lives of seven English airmen. Six were killed instantly when the planes crashed. The seventh d:ed on his way to hospital in Earrie. All were from the Air Training School at Port Albert, Ont. There was only one survivor. Aircraftman J. L. Flower, of Chandlers Ford, Eastleigh, Hants Eng., radio operator In one ol the' planes, who iuffered revei e injur iei which are believed to include a broken back. The Dead, Fit. Sgt M. Dodsworth, of York" and Sgt, J. C. Bell, of Durham, the pilots of the two training planes; Leading Air eraftman M. G. Solkard, Leeds; Leading Aircraftman C. T. Douglas, Sherwood; Leading Aircraftman I. V. Jackson, London; Leading Aircraftman S. Porter. Liverpool; and Leading Aircraftman D. A. Rundell, Bristol. Jackson waslive when he was extricated from the wreckage ol the plane in which Flower was injured. He died on the way to ho?pital in Barrie. , In an early statement. Squadron Leader E. E. Vielle, officer commanding the Port Albert school, near Godcnch. said: ."The aircraft were engaged in a navigational exercise, the track of which passed near Camp Borden. . The first report of the accident was received from the adjutant of the Royal Canadian Air force station at Camp Borden, who- stated all possible assistance was being given by Jls unit." All-of the men involved in the crash -were members of the Royal ;A:r Fofce in Canada for training. First report of the crash was telephoned to Camp Borden by Les.- Holmes, who farms near the scene of the crash. Collide Over Farm. The planes collided over the farm of Robert Gummerson and Polished mahogany one of them crashed near his barn while the other turned upside down and exploded in a field a quarter of a mile away. The two men who survived were in the plane ' which landed near Gummerson's barn. Gummerson told the story as follows: "1 was just coming up to the house from my mail box when I heard planes overhead. Then I heard a crash and looking up saw the planes directly above my barn and I thought they were going to hit the building. "I saw one of the planes turn upside down and drift to my other field. I followed it, with my eyes and then it flew' all to pieces. I didn't know that the other plane had crashed until someone told me it had crashed." He thought "they couldn't have been so awfully high". The crash was "so terrific" that he found a compass from one of the planes in a field near his barn. Some boys of the district who gatheied at the crash scene were reported to have found an altimeter which registered 4,500 feet, indicating the crash had taken place at that altitude. One Plane Blown to Bits. The plane which crashed near the barn was recognizable ir its outline, but the one which exploded in the field was blown to bits, and piecesof wreckage .were found scattered over-ajarge Rrea. The bodies of theairmen who perished in the machine were not recognizable. Ted Hipwell, son of the (Bond Head postmaster; L. C. McLean and others from the village, went quickly to the Gummerson farm and visited first the 'plane which had landed near the barn. The other 'plane had .exploded, on striking the ground and fragment were scattered over a wide area. Two Living. On reaching the first 'plane the rescuers discovered that Flower and Jackson were alive and they were taken out and placed on strips of wing fabric laid out on the snow. Flower was conscious and told the men his name. Then he insisted they help his comrades. Hipwell ran back to the village for some brandy and when he got back to the farm Dr. R. H. Judge, of Bradford, six miles from here, was attending the men. The doctor gave Flower and Jackson hypodermic injections to ease their pain pending arrival of ambulances and cars from Camp Borden. Flower, in great pain, said to the doctor: "Thanks, pal. I'm O.K. But are the others all right? What's all that- moaning about?" He insisted the doctor go to attend his comrades of the 'plane. At the time he did not know that two from his 'plane had been killed and he knew nothing of the other 'plane. Close to Ground. Eye-witnesses generally were agreed the 'planes were close to the ground when they collided although some boys found an altimeter which registered 4,500 feet, indicating the 'planes had collided at that height. Ed Webb said he was standing on the .outskirts of the village when the 'planes collided and they were so low he had feared they would strike him. Donald MacArthur said the 'planes collided about 2,000 feet. McLean said it had appeared to him that one 'plane was approaching from the south and the other from the southwest when the tail or wheels of one 'plane became entangled with the upper structure of the other and then the two 'planes spun around out of control.'


    Sergeant Douglas Erwin HALL (R/61645) 1941-06-20 Canada Danville Protestant Cemetery Ref : Lot 6. Range 3. Row 1. Grave 5.
    Killed in flying accident near Prince Albert Sask on "June 21st"

    Actually June 21st 1941 - Not June 30 1941 As per Clipped Wings - -Date confirmed The Lethbridge Herald June 22 1941
    Tiger Moth 4208

    "Category A damage on 21 "July" 1941 at Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. Probably with No. 6 EFTS at the time."

    last date: 8 July 1941 - Struck off

    Also on board injured LAC Don Hamilton Reed R95700 (from Glendale California Mothre Belle Reed) Dangerously ill (injured)
    Reed later qualified Course 44: December 5, 1941 - March 27, 1942 No. 4 Service Flying Training School Saskatoon

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...-hamilton-reed


    STEVENS, Robert Henry LAC(P) R74708 1941-06-20
    Harvard 2825 Confimed Newspaper The Province Sat June 21st 1941 - Says Yesterday

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    Wing Commander William John Bertram ELLIOTT (21119) 1941-07-22 Canada Kingston (Cataraqui) Cemetery

    Drowned:

    Missing since March 23 1941 Body Found by 2 Boys 22 July 1941 in River at Wexford Prescott Brockville
    A veteran of Dunkirk, suffered a breakdown afterward and after recuperating in England was attached to the United Kingdom liaison mission at Ottawa

    I suggest maybe his date of death should be March 23 1941 - Not the date his body was found - But I assume this was chosen as it was the only confirmed date

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    Leading Aircraftman Kenneth Payne BISSET (R/62906) 1941-08-06 Canada Campbellton Rural Cemetery
    Flying Officer Ernest Edward CREED (C/1457) 1941-08-06 Canada Windsor (Victoria) Memorial Pa

    Killed in Flying Accident near Salisbury NB

    North American Harvard 2863

    Category A damage on 6 August 1941 while with No. 9 Service Flying Training School at Summerside, PEI.
    Had 330:45 airframe time when struck off.


    http://www.havelockflyingclub.ca/history.html

    Note spelt Bissett but Bisset on CWGC and Canadain Memorial but Bisste in newspapers born 1920

    Bissett on Ancestry

    Mrs DE Bissett Campbeltown NB


    Flight Lieutenant Charles EWENS (73178) 1941-08-10 Canada Clinton Cemetery

    Dangerously injured in automobile accident: Ewens. Charles, Fit. Lt., RAF73178, Mrs. C. Ewens (wife), 4 Bruton avenue, Bath, Eng.
    Accident Date: August 8 1941



    Leading Aircraftman Harry William LONG (403352) 1941-08-15 Canada Ottawa (Beechwood) Cemetery
    Killed in Flying Accident
    Funeral of 403352 Leading Aircraftman Harry William Long, RAAF, accidentally killed on 15 August 1941 while training with No 2 Service Flying
    Training School (SFTS) at Uplands, Ontario. Shown in the foreground are Squadron Leader Burden and Flight Lieutenant Woods, both of No. 2 SFTS together with 250854 Squadron Leader John Rutherford Gordon of the RAAF.

    https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C38529

    North American Harvard 2689
    Category A damage on 15 August 1941 while with No. 2 Service Flying Training School at Uplands, Ontario. Had 161:00 airframe time at time of crash.


    Aircraftman 2nd Class William John KEENAN (1106577) 1941-08-23 Canada North Battleford Cemetery
    Died Heart Attack at No 12 SFTS at Brandon


    Leading Aircraftman Alexander Frederick SWITZER (R/95519) 1941-08-27 Canada Pembroke (Wesley) United Churc
    Leading Aircraftman Kenneth Frederick DAVIS (R/86395) 1941-08-27 United States of America Des Moines (Glendale) Cemetery

    Mid Air Collision Training Bombers at No 5 Service Flying Training School Brantford Ont

    Ansons:
    6154 ex Ex RAF W1577. To No. 1 Training Command on 11 November 1940, for use by No. 5 Service Flying Training School at Brantford, Ontario. Category A crash near Brantford aerodrome, at 10:50 on 27 August 1941. Mid-air with Anson 6190 on approach to landing. Had 869:15 logged time.
    6190 ex Ex RAF W1596. To No. 1 Training Command on 22 November 1940, for use by No. 5 Service Flying Training School at Brantford, Ontario. Category A crash near Brantford at 10:50 on 27 August 1941. Mid-air collision with Anson 6154 while both were on landing approach. Had 940:10 logged time


    Pilot Officer Donald Graham McLEOD (R/70652) 1941-09-02 Canada Regina Cemetery
    Flying Accident near Calgary Tiger Moth
    Seriously Injured LAC B V S Wood RAF of London

    Tiger Moth 4247 Category A damage on 2 September 1941 while with No. 31 Elementary Flying Training School at De Winton, Alberta.

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