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    Default Crew of Whitley BD624 612 Sqn w/o Wick 28.3.43

    Hi All, does anyone happen to have any crew details on this Whitley that force landed after engine failure during a bombing ex. 612 ORB only says crew were unhurt but aircraft rook fire soon after. Even the name of the pilot would be a help. Thanks. Dave.

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    Hi,
    There is a good account of the accident at the link below written by the Wirelwss Op/ air Gunner, Mr Cliff Peters
    http://www.caithness.org/wings/612cliffpeters.htm
    Alan.

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    Thanks Alan,

    That`s a great help. A good start, good account and at least the name of one of the crew.

    Regards
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    Hello,

    Checking back over the 612 Sqn ORB, the regular crew at that time seems to be:

    139636 P/O (Pilot) Harold SHERWOOD RAFVR
    ??????? Sgt J W LOW
    ??????? F/Sgt L J HONAN ? (later replaced by F/Sgt R L WEBB)
    ??????? Sgt T C PETERS
    ??????? Sgt J COURTIS
    ??????? Sgt W F ELLIS

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    Hi Dave,
    Forgot that I have the Police report,courtesy of Mark Sheldon, but all it gives is the location, time of 1450hrs and the crew escaped.

    Alan.

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    Hello,

    LJ Honan appears to be R85056 F/Sgt Lloyd James Honan of Benson, Saskatchewan; deceased 30 October 1997.

    http://www.airmuseum.ca/contact/34.2_2016.pdf

    We ran across an item in the archives worthy of inclusion in this article. It is a summary of Training and Active Service of an airman named Lloyd Honan. It is an interesting read and confirms information presented. It is translated as follows: Applied to join R.C.A.F. in July 1940 - called Dec.1940AC2 Honan L.J. R85056No. 2 Manning Depot - Brandon Manitoba17/12/40 - 15/1/41 (29 days - four weeks) (Pay $1.30/Day - cash)AC2 Honan L.J. R 85056#6 Bombing and Gunnery School - Dafoe, Saskatchewan
    16/1/41 - 21/2/41 (36 days - five weeks) (Guard Duty)AC2 Honan L.J. R85056#2 Initial Training School - Regina, Saskatchewan21/2/41 - 31/3/41 (38 days - six weeks)Honan personal comment: ``N.B. - All of us at I.T.S. thought we were potential pilots - then came the day - (we were told) we need so many air observers - volunteers are you - you - you etc., I was a EWE (you)’‘LAC Honan L.J. R85056 (AVRO - ANSON)#3 Air Observer School - Regina, Saskatchewan31/3/41 - 23/6/41 (84 days - 12 weeks) (Avro Anson)(Pay $2.25/Day)LAC Honan L.J. R85056#2 Bombing and Gunnery School - Mossbank, Saskatchewan23/6/41 - 4/8/41 (42 days - six weeks) (Fairey Battle)Sgt. Honan L.J. R85056#1 Air Navigational School (Celestial) - Rivers, Manitoba4/8/41 - 1/9/41 (28 days - four weeks) (Avro Anson)(Pay $3.70/Day)1/9/41 - 25/9/41 (24 days - four weeks) (Overseas Leave)Sgt. OBS. Honan L.J. R85056#1 "Y" Depot - Halifax, Nova Scotia25/9/41 - 28/9/41 (three days)Sgt. OBS. Honan L.J. R85056RAF Ferry Command Montreal, Quebec29/9/41 - 16/10/41 (18 days) (Lockheed Hudson)Pilot J.W. King - Navigator L.J. Honan Lloyd Hanon completed his RCAF career as a Flight Lieutenant. His total RCAF service in Canada prior to deployment overseas was 304 days. His total training days in the BCATP, including a stop at Y Depot, was 233 days or 33 weeks. According to ourchart, as a Navigator he was expected to spend between 30 and 36 weeks of training.One interesting aspect of F/L Hanon’s training materials was revealed while viewing his group photos while progressing from school to school. By and large, the airman in the pictures were the same, progressing through each component (AOS,BGS, ANS and possibly ITS and Manning Depot) together as a group.Once overseas, men from his classes became fellow crew members who served with him in 144, 612, 172 and 202 squadrons based in the Soviet Union, Scotland,England and Gibralter. He was navigator in Handley Page Hampden, Vickers Wellington and Consolidated PBY Catalina aircraft. Hanon completed 39 missions and was recommended for the Operational Badge with Bar.
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    Dave

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    Thanks Col.

    Yes! I was looking over the ORB myself and this looks to have been the regular crew save for Honan who only appeared once on 27th March for 1 flight with this crew.

    Though the 2nd pilot prior to the 28th looks to have been Sgt J.C. Bristow who was replaced by Sgt J.W.Low. Neither Bristow or Honan are mentioned in the ORB in April so I wonder if they were posted?

    For anyone else interested, Low and Ellis were both went missing on ops later with 612 Sqn while flying in Wellingtons. F/Sgt Low Landed back at base with engine trouble in Wellington `J` MP654 then took off in `P` HF128 and failed to return. ( Pilot F/Sgt W.H. Smitham) on 4.8.43 and Sgt Ellis went missing from A/S Patrol in Wellington HF205. 30.10.43.

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