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    The Above Magister was lost on the 30/8/39 when it crashed while the pupil Robert John Gillingham was being instructed by F/Sgt Thomas Richard Watkin Owens 365768 killing both men i note that no Air 81 exists for the incident would an 1180 or Similar exist for this incident if so what and where can i get a copy. It seems the Aircraft entered a flat spin during a spinning test and crashed nr Horley.

    i am seeking information on the incident and the two men involved F/Sgt Owen was an Aircraft apprentice who enlisted in Jan 1925 and was born local to me hence my interest .

    TIA Phill Jones

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    Phill,

    From Vols One and Three of my For Your Tomorrow trilogy:

    Dual instruction - RAF examining officer’s five hour test.
    19 Elementary and Reserve Flying Training School, RAF (Gatwick, Surrey - 26 Group)
    Miles Magister I L8214 - entered a left hand flat spin from over 2000 feet while carrying out a spinning test and failed to recover before crashing near Horley, killing both airmen. The testing officer, Flt Sgt T R W Owens, had over 2000 flying hours to his credit.
    Pupil Pilot: Roger John GILLINGHAM, RAF - Age 21.
    Gillingham, a New Zealander selected for a Short service commission in the RAF, had arrived in England three weeks earlier and was engaged in the preliminary training required prior to formal acceptance as a commissioned pilot in the service.

    GILLINGHAM, Mr Roger John.
    (no No.); b Wanganui 26 Dec 17; Timaru BHS & Canty Univ Coll (1st XV & 1st Tennis & Golf Teams); sheep farmer - father's farm, Bedeshurst, Fairlie. Selected for RAF SSComm by 30 May 39, emb for UK 27 Jun 39, arr 1 Aug 39; RAF & to Gatwick/19E&RFTS (Magister) as Pilot u/t 8 Aug 39, kaa 30 Aug 39. [buried or cremated in England?]. Son of Roger Browne & Mildred Lyall Gillingham (née Balfour), Fairlie. Note: had he successfully completed his training at Gatwick Gillingham would have been appointed to an RAF SSComm.

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    Hi Errol ,

    Thank you very much much appreciated Rgs Phill

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    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    AUCKLAND STAR, VOLUME LXX, ISSUE 127, 1 JUNE 1939 ROYAL AIR FORCE.

    DOMINION CANDIDATES. (By Telegraph.—Own Correspondent.) WELLINGTON, thie day. The names of 24 candidates eelected for short service commissions in the Royal Air Force were announced by the Minister of Defence, the Hon. F. Jones.
    They are as follows:—
    R. I. Armstrong, Masterton; Rodney Irvine ARMSTRONG 42687 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    J. N. Bethell, New Plymouth; John Neale BETHELL 42689 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    “N. C.” Buist, Wellington; Clement Neville BUIST 42690 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    C. R. Bush, Wellington: Charles Roy BUSH 42691 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    W. P. B. Cleary, Christchurch; William Peter Bruce 75768 A P/O 9-Nov-39 Equipment Branch
    I. C. Kirk, Auckland; Ian Clark KIRK 42714 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    J. C. Mallon, New Plymouth; John Charles MALLON 42719 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    F. T. Poole, Invercargill; Frank Twain POOLE 42722 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    R. M. Sanderson, Auckland; Rex Martyn SANDERSON 42727 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    D. J. T. Sharp, Dunedin; Denis John Thomas SHARP 42729 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    C. W. H. Thomson, Stratford; Charles William Halliwell THOMSON 42730 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    R. W. H. Carter, Feilding; Reginald William Horace CARTER 42694 A P/O 18-Sep-39
    J. E. S. Bentley, Wellington; Jack Edward Sedgwick BENTLEY 42738 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    E. R. Edmunds, Palmerston North; Eric Ralph EDMUNDS 42744 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    J. Garcia, New Plymouth;
    R. J. Gillingham, Timaru; Roger John Gillingham
    R. G. Hall, Wellington; Robert Gladstone HALL 42749 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    C. L. G. Holmes, Auckland; Cedric Leslie Garland HOLMES 42753 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    J. H. D. Keates, .Auckland; John Henry Dennis KEATES 42755 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    T. D. I. Robison, Invercargill; Thomas Douglas Inglis ROBISON 42768 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    R. E. Short, Auckland; Rupert Edward SHORT 42770 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    O. V. Tracey, Dunedin; Owen Vincent TRACEY 42774 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    J. V. Verran, Auckland; James Victor VERRAN 42775 A P/O 09-Oct-39
    T. R. Murfitt, Auckland. Thomas Russell MURFITT 42759 A P/O 09-Oct-39


    Twelve candidates will sail for England on June 15 and 12 on June 27

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    Thank you Paul

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