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    Does anyone know where I can find a copy of a BLANK red Nav plotting chart for UK, Germany (as far E as Stettin) Benelux, France and Italy (as far S as Naples)?
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    I have been trying to find similar for a few years now so that I could produce an overlay on Google Earth, thereby enabling me to plot routes for each sortie.

    I did manage to clean one up, but it only covered part of Germany, so lots of sorties "fell off the map", so I would be interested to know if you have any luck

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    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    It is most unlikely that it would be one sheet for that size of area. As Pete said blanks are very hard to come by and even used ones don't appear very often if at all. Regards, Terry

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    Carpe/Pete/Terry et al,

    Using ‘blue-sky thinking’ out of the ‘box’!
    Might it not be possible for someone (RAF Museum?, etc) with examples of those various charts to have them scanned at high resolution? These scans could then be “photo-shopped”(?) to produce a GE overlay (or do I expose my computer ignorance?).

    Now I appreciate this would take a lot of human expertise. Humans have become very expensive to employ. There would be a very limited market for the final product. But with the current “Go get ’em” attitude at the RAFM, they might - for example - produce copies of those aircrew E&E maps on silk as a "must have" item on sale at Hendon?

    I have no axe to grind! But where there’s a will, there’s a way!!

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    I suspect that if the map covers too large an area it might be difficult to fit the flat projection to the more globe like projection on Google Earth. A great idea but may require a bit of work.

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    As you say, I had great difficulty overlaying the one map that I had over Google Earth, so it will take some effort to map the complete picture.

    ..... but I appear to have taken the thread away from the original poster's question which was "Does anyone know where I can find a copy of a BLANK red Nav plotting chart for UK, Germany (as far E as Stettin) Benelux, France and Italy (as far S as Naples)?
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    PeteT,
    I was not after hijacking the thread but simply trying to suggest ways to solve the original question. But if any of these nav charts still exist then it would seem VITAL to have them scanned ASAP - by whoever. The charts themselves will decay with time, but an electronic copy is fairly indestructible. And some Uni maths genius can produce a PhD Thesis in 5/10/20 years time to allow these nav charts to be swapped, and-or wrapped round, the various map projections. Would be an interesting exercise to plot a raid (and then "fly" it on an FS) using Tobler's hyperelliptical, or Mollweide's (or other), projections.
    I don't think the problem is technically insuperable? It, currently, is likely to be very expensive (and there's the problem!) and time-consuming.
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    Peter

    I was blaming myself for taking the thread down a different alley ..... I agree with you, there must be a will and a way
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Well folks, you’re partially in luck.

    The two map series you are looking for are GSGS (AIR) 4080 at 1:1,000,000 scale and GSGS (AIR) 5012 at 1:2,000,000 scale which have been scanned as part of the Gordon Griffith archive held by McMaster University. See link here http://digitalarchive.mcmaster.ca/is...acrepo%3A87189

    Kind regards
    Pierre

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    Pierre thank you so much!

    Thanks to everyone for your imuputs: I realise my error in suggesting vaguely that the area would be covered by one chart: of course I know there will be more than one! I want to plot all the 576 Ops routes for the forthcoming www.576squadron.com website.
    Your contrivutions are all very much appreciated - thanks guys!

    Matt

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