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    Can someone please let me know what Air Britain Serials says about Siskin J8644 and J9358 on 19th June 1930 Please

    Both were with 43 Sqn and were involved in a collision but only 1 would have been a w/o

    I will be coming back to this

    Many Thanks

    Paul

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    Hello,

    Armstrong Whitworth Siskin IIIAs J8644 and J9358:

    J8644 (AW219) - FF. 16.11.27; MKRS 10.28; 43 Sqdn; collided with (Siskin) J9358, 19.6.30 WOC (p.87).

    J9358 - TOC 27.3.29; 17 Sqdn .29 - .30; 25 Sqdn .30; 43 Sqdn; collided with (Siskin) J8644 19.6.30 (p.111).

    See:
    Royal Air Force Aircraft J1 - J9999 and WW1 Survivors.
    Thompson,Dennis & Ray Sturtivant.
    Tonbridge:Air-Britain (Historians),1987.
    pp.87 & 111.

    Col.

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    Col

    Many Many Thanks

    Found out today that P/O John Heber-Percy was flying J9358 and he bailed out. The other J8644
    was piloted by 365094 Sgt Charles George Wareham and he landed safely at the aerodrome.

    Also see 23-APR-1931 K1838 DH.60M Moth/ Siskin J8893 for another collision by 365094 Sgt Charles George Wareham in which he landed safely

    Source: John Heber-Percy Log Book

    "Heber Log Book: June 19th 1930 Siskin IIIA J9358 Squadron formation. Collided with Sgt. Wareham while forming snake. Left by parachute"

    They were practicing for Hendon Air Display

    Surprised J8644 was written off if Wareham managed to land it OK - He did get an AFM in 1939 so me might have been a outstanding pilot!

    Paul

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    Hello Paul,
    I heard from ****** *** at the Irvin Company today. She emailed my their invitation for John to submit his account of the April 11th 1930 collision with P/O Brake. His letter contains the account of the incident you sent me as a quote from an Irvin booklet. There was another letter from Irvin welcoming John and enclosing his tie pin. I asked about the accounts of both the April and June collisions according to Brake and Wareham but no more material is available. Whether this is a privacy issue or records have been lost I don't know, but Maureen suggested I contact the RAF Museum to see if they know more details.

    William
    PS my grandfather's log book has no hyphen in our surname.
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 20th June 2019 at 10:59. Reason: Privacy

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    William

    Thanks for the update. The lack of info on second incident even at the Caterpillar Club indicates maybe not much more than in your father logbook and what AIR 10-1468 has to say which may explain why I can't provide any more info!

    There maybe accident cards held at Hendon on J8644 and J9358 that may add a little more to the story

    PS I will update my records to remove the hyphen! I see this is how he is on the London Gazette as well


    Paul

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    Thank you for editing my post to protect privacy. My apologies.

    William

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