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    Jagan,

    Not sure if you have this, but l'll post it anyway:

    Re: 7 Sqdn IAF Vengeance AN834 - 8/5/1944.
    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=AN834

    George Medal.
    365204/(45085) - S/L Samuel James DAVIES MBE(M), RAF (168 Wing, RAF).
    LG: 20/10/1944. (ex-Halton Brat - 10th Entry).
    Saving life after aircraft crash, Kumbhrigram Airfield, Assam, India, 8/5/1944.

    In May, 1944, this officer was in the vicinity when an aircraft, shortly after taking off on an operational flight, crashed and burst into flames. Sqn Ldr Davies immediately drove to the scene and observed the rear gunner collapse in an attempt to get out of the aircraft. Heedless of the danger from the ammunition which was exploding, and also aware that the aircraft carried bombs, he climbed on to the wing to extricate the rear gunner whose head and shoulders were hanging over the side of the cockpit. He had to free the latter's harness which had become entangled in some part of the aircraft, but he finally managed to lift him out of the cockpit and drag him clear of the burning wreckage. Sqn Ldr Davies then attempted to lift the body of the pilot out of the blazing front cockpit but was unsuccessful in doing this owing to smoke and flames. He could see that the pilot had been killed in the crash. After warning all personnel of an imminent explosion he, with the assistance from another airman, carried the gunner to the sick quarters. Less than two minutes after he had left the scene; two 500lb bombs exploded completely destroying the aircraft. The timely and courageous action of Sqn Ldr Davies had saved the life of the rear gunner.

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    thanks Colin, I am re-working the Vengeances list again .. the number has gone up another 10%.. will have it done in a couple of weeks

    I do have a question about three fatalities in Cholavaram on 1942-10-11 due to a flying accident. Aircraft was not specified in ORB of 82 Squadron . Is this a Vengeance or some other type?


    Sgt Robert Robb STEWART* 1068916
    Sgt Thomas George MASTERS* 1166144
    Sgt Richard Herbert WORRALL (1360289) (AG) also killed
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    Jagan,

    Like you, no Vengeance losses found for 82 Sqn/11 October, 1942.

    That said, let me run this past you. One loss on 11 October, 1942, was De Havilland Leopard Moth MA922. A-B MA-MZ Serials (p.11), has the following details for this loss:

    MA922 - 82/1 Flt IAF - ex-VT-AIL. Crashed in bad weather one-and-half miles SW of Mandabarkam*, 11.10.42.

    The DH Production List - http://www.airhistory.org.uk/dh/_DH%20prodn%20list.txt

    Has the following: 7130 - DH 85 - LEOPARD MOTH - VT-AIL - MA922 - Crashed in squall Poonthandalan 11.10.42.

    I can't locate either of those locations, you might have more luck. If they are within spitting distance of Cholavarum/Chennai - well.

    The 82 Squadron connection in A-B is intriguing.

    If's/maybe's & but's!

    Col

    * PS. I found a place called, "MADAMBAKKAM, approximately 26km SW of Chennai.

    I fished out my copy of A-B's Impressments Log Volume IV Middle East and India (p.164). It states the following:

    DE HAVILLAND D.H.85 LEOPARD MOTH.

    No construction number - No civil registration - MA922 - 17.7.42 Madras Flying Club. Retained at Madras and became MA922 while on loan to No. 82 Sqn. No.1 flight took it over before October 1942 and were flying it when it crashed on 11.10.42 one-and-half miles south-west of Mandambarkham, after flying through a heavy squall. The Leopard Moth was a complete wreck.

    Mmmmmmm!
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    hi gents,

    F1180 confirms Sgt Stewart as one of the three killed in crash of MA922.

    Most details as per Col's posts but the unit has been subject to a few strike outs (including RAF Madras 82 Sqn) before settling on No.1 CD Flight, St Thomas Mount

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    MA922 it is! It was on the strength of 1 CD Flight. But no mention of it in the sparse ORB that they maintained.

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    Vengeance Losses Refreshed - now the count is 216, including about 10 non-writeoffs....


    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...g.php?qacid=13

    at least four incidents in which the gunners baled out but the pilots returned back safely with the aircraft..

    1943-11-11
    Flt Sgt S Mathews Sgt McCandlish 45 Sqdn

    1944-04-06
    Plt Offr B FINNIE J19791 Plt Offr Ronald Eric GABRIELSON 407150 84 Sqdn

    1944-06-26
    Plt Offr B FINNIE J19791 Fg Offr John Frederick ELLIS* 136727 84 Sqdn

    1944-05-08
    Flt Lt R C TOPLEY Fg Offr David George CUMMIN 105133 110 Sqdn

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    Hi Jagan

    The database gives the unit for this aircraft as No 356 MU with the crew being injured.

    However, the 110 Sqn ORB states it was still on the strength of the unit but was being flown to 356 MU by a 110 Sqn crew, one of who died from his injuries - WO BRABY, RICHARD SAMUEL (1388246); age 21

    Malcolm

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