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    Default 32 Sqn Pilots 1931 to 1936 (Bulldog)

    I got the following list from Bristol Bulldog Fighter by David Luff
    And have completed all names and service numbers and fate til Sept 1939 where appropriate

    But Can anyone ID the 3 Sgt Pilots Adams, Cooper and Price?

    Thanks Paul

    Bristol Bulldog Fighter


    No 32(F) Squadron -
    Adeste comites ('Rally round comrades')

    Bulldog IIA (1/31-7/36)

    Kenley, Surrey (4/23-9/32)
    Biggin Hill, Kent (9/32-1/40)

    COs
    Squadron Leader Brian Edmund Baker, DSO, MC (11/29-12/32)
    Squadron Leader Douglas Leslie (Gerry) Blackford (09057) (13/32-4/34)
    Squadron Leader George Thomas Richardson (04190) (4/34-4/37)

    Rank Name
    SgtP Adams
    FL Edward Enos Arnold, DFC (15087)
    FL Cyril Edgar Joseph Baines (26152)
    FO John Darcy Baker-Carr (27244)
    PO Ernest Frank Edwin Barnard (36030)
    SgtP John Osmotherley Barnes (364803)
    FL Hugh Arthur Jasper de Symons Barrow (29227)
    PO Rodney Thomas Playford Clarkson (DoI Car Accident 9/2/34)
    SgtP Cooper
    FO Leonard John Crosbie (29064)
    FO Reginald David (24069)
    FO Eric William Downing (relinquishes SSC on account ill health 22/2/33)
    FL Christopher Caswell Edwards (16109) (placed on retired list on account of ill-health 5/10/32 may not have been with 32 Sqn as posted to Station Flight Kenley
    PO Haldane Georgeson (KIFA Bulldog IIA K2171 7/10/35)
    SgtP Frank Gomersall (366142)
    FL Douglas John Harrison (22070)
    PO Peter Heylin Heygate (KIFA Audax I K5222 7/9/36)
    FO Geoffrey Cuyler Holland (Died 24/2/38)
    SgtP Maxwell Hugh Hooper (363976)
    FL John Harvey Hutchinson (16112)
    PO Edward Cunliffe Ingham (26201)
    SgtP Leonard Jobbins (365485)
    SgtP Wilfred William Loxton (365878)
    FL Arthur William Baynes McDonald (18219) -- Addition by Steve Brew
    FL Esmond John Hugh Fulford Moreton (24224)
    PO Leonard James Neale (29174)
    SgtP Frederick Martin Nicholson (354911)
    SgtP Price
    SgtP John Gurney Priest (364249)
    FO Norman Cecil Ross-Roberts
    SgtP Albert Edward Rumble (364990)
    PO George Felix Allen Skelton (29147)
    PO George Norman Snarey (29100)
    PO George Keith Tulloch (28073)
    SgtP Henry Mungall Walker (363495)
    PO Cedric Watcyn Williams (26219)
    SgtP Reginald George Williams (363497)
    PO Anthony Thomas Wilson (resigns SSC 28/1/1931)
    FO Hugh Patrick Wilson (27036)
    FL Freke Williams Wiseman-Clarke (18129)
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 24th June 2019 at 15:50. Reason: Corrections from Steve Brew

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    Hey Paul

    I can't help on the three Sgt Plts, but do you have:

    McDONALD, ARTHUR WILLIAM BAYNES, 18219; SSC as Prob Plt Off, 15 Mar 24; Plt Off, 15 Sep 24; Fg Off, 15 Oct 25; PC as Fg Off, 1 Sep 28; Flt Lt, 13 Nov 29; 32 Sqn, 19 Mar 36; Sqn Ldr, 1 Dec 36; involved in ‘Bgn Hill Experiment’, to test & create operating procedures for new RDF (Radar) System, 1936-37; OC, 32 Sqn, 12 Apr 37

    I note you have no number for C. C. Edwards. Maybe you have it but just left it off. Just in case, he's another of my 41 Sqn pilots and his no. was 16109. That said, can you provide me his dates of tenure for 32 Sqn, please? I have his career path mapped but nothing on 32 Sqn - presumably ca mid-1930-early 1932...?

    I also have H. P. Wilson as 27036 - not 27035. Just checked and 27036 is confirmed by the Jun 1940 AFL.

    Let me know if you need any further info on any of these pilots

    Cheers
    Steve
    41 (F) Squadron RAF at War and Peace, April 1916-March 1946
    http://brew.clients.ch/41sqnraf.htm

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    Steve

    Maybe Luff got Edwards wrong, he may have nee using 32 sqn machines as he was posted
    C C Edwards to Station HQ Kenley 1.9.30

    C. C. Edwards, to No. 40 (B) Sqdn., Upper Heyford, 18.2.32 - -Photo in 8 May 1932 Flight

    and then C. C. Edwards, to R.A.F. Depot, Uxbridge, 2.8.32.

    and then Fit. Lt. C. C. Edwards is placed on retired list on account of ill-health (Oct. 5 1932).

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    Hey Paul, you might be on the money with that. I have:

    111 Sqn, 19 Dec 23
    4 FTS, Abu Sueir, 22 Sep 25
    45 Sqn, Heliopolis, 9 Feb 29
    41 Sqn, 6 Oct 29
    RAF Hornchurch, 24 Jun 30
    SHQ Kenley, 1 Sep 30
    40 Sqn, 18 Feb 32
    RAF Depot, Uxb, 2 Aug 32
    Retired due ill health, 5 Oct 32
    Assist Adjt, MAEE, Felixstowe, 1938
    Recalled for svce in RAFVR ASD Branch, 1 Sep 39-31 Dec 41
    Died King’s Lynn, Nflk, 25 Oct 85

    Steve
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    PO Anthony Thomas Wilson (resigns SSC 28/1/1931) Prob #27168

    This may be linked

    Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Friday 03 October 1930

    FLYING OFFICER INJURED. While driving car Mitcham Road yesterday, Pilot Officer Anthony T. Wilson (22), of Kenley Aerodrome, son of Sir Matthew and Lady Wilson, Cadogan Square, London, collided with a lorry. He was taken to Croydon Hospital, suffering from severe concussion, and was last night he was stated to be as well as could be expected

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    Hi Paul,

    This is not a specific answer to your query, however it may be of interest to know there are a few Australian connections in the roster.

    G F A Skelton was from Sydney. He was shot down on 13 May 40 while with 264 Sqn RAF. Skelton was believed killed, although in reality he survived, albeit severely injured. Apparently repatriated to Britain in 1943 due to severity of wounds. Remained in the RAF.

    G K Tulloch hailed from Perth, Western Australia. Was a Point Cook graduate of the RAAF and was one of six Australians who accepted a short service commission in the RAF during 1929. Not sure of subsequent service detail, although it seems he was stationed in Iraq for two years sometime before 1935 and in 1945 was a Group Captain and station commander of RAF Aboukir. Photo of Tulloch at following link.

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/83710640

    Regards, Drew

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    Drew

    Thanks for that info

    I had a thought

    As Bulldogs were in Aust service I did wonder if a number of Aust pilots were Trained on them in UK

    I know there was a Sgt Pilot Adams in OZ on Bulldogs and also Sgt Pilot G A Cooper (Glen Albert Cooper) later Sqn ldr 251466 But the dates don't really match up http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/coop...n-albert-12352 :-(


    Interesting the names are the same!




    Paul
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    Hi Paul,

    Pre-WWII is not my specific area of focus, although I do have partial information relating to Australians serving in the RAF during this period.

    Generally you will find that most Australians serving in the RAF pre-1939 would have been involved in the Short Service Commission scheme (there were some exceptions). SSC aircrew were graduates from the RAAF’s training school at Point Cook, near Melbourne Victoria. The scheme was intended to provide pilots with advanced training and expertise that could then be brought back to the RAAF when they returned. In many cases this did not occur.

    From Jefford’s RAF Squadron book I believe the following RAF units were equipped with the Bulldog II - 3, 17, 19, 23, 29, 32, 41, 54, 56, 111.

    I have the following Australians connected to these units pre-war, however, have not checked whether the dates fall within the period of Bulldog operations.

    Short Service Commission (ex-RAAF)
    William Wallace Evan Olivier (RAF.34062) 17 Sqn RAF
    Wallace Cowling Williams (RAF.39010) 17 Sqn RAF (1936)
    Donald Harry Hunter (RAF.40051) 17 Sqn RAF (1937)
    Allister William Stewart Matheson (RAF.29258) 19 Sqn (1931)
    Alan Francis Bandidt (RAF.34209) 23 Sqn RAF (1934)
    Ronald Beresford Lees (RAF.29257) 29 Sqn RAF
    Charles Horace Fry (RAF.40047) 32 Sqn RAF
    Grosvenor Selk (u/k service number) 32 Sqn (1927)
    Harold Berkeley Hurley (RAF.34096) 32 Sqn RAF (1933)
    Alfred John Draper (RAF.32139) 54 Sqn RAF (1932)
    Walter Bruce Skinner (RAF.40062) 111 Sqn RAF
    Peter Edward Campbell Strahan (RAF.36154) 111 Sqn RAF

    Other Australians
    Stanley MacDonald Wickham (RAF.40773) 3 Sqn RAF
    Anthony Lauderdale Paxton (RAF.04161) 23 Sqn RAF (1931)
    Victor Thomas Lawrence Wood (RAF.39921) 23 Sqn RAF
    William Hart Kyle (RAF.26141) 17 Sqn RAF (1931)
    Colin Campbell McMullen (RAF.32118) 32 Sqn RAF

    I am sure the above is not a definitive list. If you have squadron rosters for the Bulldog units I would be happy to cross check with any other names.

    Regards, Drew

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