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    Hi All

    I'm currently writing up a career report on a Wing Commander with a lengthy medical history.

    The description of his injury or condition is usually followed by the above phrase and a year

    Has anybody any idea what it means?

    Cheers

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm, looks as if nobody’s going to come to your assistance!

    'in' is used for periods of time. 'by' is used for points in time.(from an on-line English site).

    As it stands, that would have been classified as a tautology when I was at school. It may have a specific meaning in the medical world? Ring your GP – if you get hold of him/her!!!
    Best I can do!
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    Cheers Peter

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    Just to throw a cat among the pigeons, the only words I have seen on personnel service documents used to describe being sent to or from a hospital (or any other type of medical facility for that matter, including the humble SSQ, that is, Station Sick Quarters) are "admitted", and "discharged". Pretty obvious, may still be used to this day for all I know! If I am completely off message here, ignore/delete this post.
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    Hi David

    'Admitted' & 'Discharged' usually appear in the Movements Section, the 'In ~ By' appears underneath the description of the disability in the medical section. An example being: -

    Psychoneurosis (Anxiety) In ~ By 1921 | 19.9.29 CME | ApB | | RTU/ACR 33/34

    Malcolm
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    Malcolm,
    When I was doing my archaeology there were two “time markers” that were in use when one was doing investigations. One was Terminus Ante Quem - the latest possible date for something, and the other was Terminus Post Quem - the earliest possible date for something.
    It is beginning to look as if “In & By” might be a form of medical shorthand (doctor’s handwriting was famously illegible!!) for the two long Latin phrases? Just a thought!
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    Hi Peter

    I think you are on the right track, it seems to be used when referring to the date of a diagnosis regardless of the date of the medical board.

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm

    I did some research for a doctor a few years ago and he was interested in the classifications and medical annotations utilised during WWII. I don't know how far he got with his research, but I have e-mailed him to see if he can shed any light on the matter

    Regards

    Pete
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hi Pete

    I've e-mailled you

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