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    Hello

    I have just joined the site after being an interested on-looker for a while. About 18 months ago I started a project on Short Sunderlands to try and identify all the crew/passengers in every loss/notable incident etc. My interest stems from my late grandfather who was a pilot on 201 Squadron 1944-1946. I have identified so far around 310 incidents and fully identified the personnel involved in most of them. I have now reached the stage where I am stuck. As far as Canadian airmen and officers are concerned I am still trying to identify 17 out of a total of 226. Any help in filling in some of the initials would be very much appreciated.

    1. F/O W E LEIGH service number given as J25312. He was either a pilot or a navigator on 423 Squadron in May 1945. The service number maybe wrong as I have found an entry in the Canada Gazette for this number and it isn't him.

    All the rest are NCO's
    2. LAC H S DODD R59374 422 Squadron aboard Sunderland W6029 when it crashed in Scotland on 19/12/1942.

    3. Sgt H B or B B (believed second name Bruce) CURRIE wireless operator on the same aircraft as above.

    4. Sgt D J JORGENSON R60588 204 Squadron aboard DV974 when it crashed at Bathurst on 1/10/1943.

    5. Sgt H J SYKES R70408 302FTU was crew on ML845 when it ditched on route from Gibraltar to Bathurst on 23/07/1944.

    6. Sgt W H or W M or D M PARKER R76156 422 Squadron wireless operator aboard W6003 when it crash landed in Iceland on 28/09/1943

    7. F/Sgt D F PORTEOUS R121294 believed to be a pilot on the same aircraft as above.

    8. Sgt J GROLEAU R77180 230 Squadron crewman aboard T9050 when it crashed at Aboukir on 30/09/1942.

    9. W/O K T ASHE R97017 423 Squadron aboard W6008 when it ditched on convoy escort 12/03/1944

    10. Sgt D J WELLS R109487 (possible first name or Don or Donald) 422 Squadron crew on DD861 that ditched in the Bay of Biscay on 03/09/1943.

    11. F/Sgt W H ABRAHAM R116835 423 Squadron aboard W6013 that crashed into Knockayld Mountain, Co Antrim on 05/12/1943.

    12. Sgt A P LAWSON R129528 95 Squadron. Was the boat guard on W6062 when it hit by JM680 at Half Die on 31/05/1943

    13. W/O R H VOYCE R145054 423 Squadron. The sole survivor of ML823 when it crashed off Co Donegal on 6th September 1944.

    14. Sgt G H FLEMING R187276 422 Squadron who was aboard W6028 when it crashed in Enniskillen on 20th February 1944.

    15. F/Sgt J C WALKER R271038 (possibly Jack) 423 RCAF crewman aboard NJ186 when it crash landed and exploded at Jurby on 20/05/1945

    I have fully identified all the other Canadians involved in these and numerous other incidents. If anyone would like the full details that I have please just ask. If anyone has a suggestion where else I could try to get the names please let me know

    Sorry its such a big first post, but thanks in anticipation
    Cheers
    Chris

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    W/O Robert Henry VOYCE RCAF R/145054

    From contact with family and family history research, oh and I confirmed it with the L&A Canada,

    What was your grandfathers name incidentally?
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    Dennis, That is Brilliant, I kind of half expected you to the first to answer the quality of your research on your web site is amazing. My grandfather was Sgt Maldwyn David OSBORNE 1421039 RAF(VR). He joined 201 Squadron in June 1944 as a Sergeant Pilot on W/O Smiths crew. He was eventually commissioned in July 1945 and given the service number 199368. He completed 41 Operational patrols before the war ended, mainly on an all NCO crew under W/O Symons. He stayed with the RAF until 1946. He completed the Captains course at 4(C)OTU then left the RAF and never flew himself again. He passed away in 2007. My Dad gave me his flying log book a couple of years ago and it was then my interest was sparked back into life.
    Thanks for the information on W/O Voyce. You state you confirmed it with the L & A Canada, How do you go about that, I have found it a very difficult site to search on line.

    Thanks again

    Chris

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    it was over ten years ago, I sent them an email (might have been a letter) with as many names as you have above, roughly, and they responded with confirmation of full names. Times may have changed and they might not have the manpower to do something like that. You won't find it online in so far I know.

    Thanks for the kind words!
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    is this J Groleau ?

    Globe and Mail, 1942/10/12

    GROLEAU, Joseph Gerard Fernand
    Arthur, Sergeant, dangerously injured. on active service overseas.
    Mrs. J. G. F. A. Groleau (wife),
    Montreal .

    Found that from searching
    https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibit...nadawar_e.html

    if any of the above were badly injured you ought to find them in there but it might be hard to find since you can really only search by surname
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    Thanks again Dennis this is so helpful. I suspect you have found the right Groleau. There were three Australians aboard that flight. One of them, P/O Kenneth Charles CARLSSON 400113 RAAF was killed. NAA has a digital repatriation file containing the form 412. Sgt J Groleau R77180 Wop/AG was seriously injured. There is also a telegram that mentions Groleau, whereby they ask to inform his wife, Mrs Groleau (no surprise there) of 25 Workman St, MONTREAL. All that and the date satisfies me that it is one and the same. I'll give it a bit longer here and check out that website then I feel an email to Canada coming on
    Thanks very much indeed
    Chris

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    Confirmed from newspapers.com, up to certain point they published serial numbers in the Canadian newspapers

    October 12, 1942
    A Publisher Extra Newspaper
    The Gazette from Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada 14
    DANGEROUSLY INJURED ON ACTIVE SERVICE : Groleau, Joseph Gerard Fernand Arthur. Sgt., R77180, Mrs. J. G. F. A. Groleau. (wife), 527 Atwater St. Montreal.
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    Hi Chris,

    R121294 Donald Frederick Porteous (J50666) pilot

    https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...danrvjiv629gl2

    Obituary:

    https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ti...&pid=145064686

    Regars

    Mojmir

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    9. W/O K T ASHE R97017

    Keith T. Ashe. Deceased Anaheim, California 21 January 1968

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    Truly outstanding work thank you all so much. I'm kicking myself I didn't find Porteous. I was sure that as a pilot he more than likely got commissioned and ran a ton of searches on the Canada Gazette Archives but they didn't pick him up at all.

    Thanks again
    Chris

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