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    Default Units in Scotland using Whitleys in July - September 1943

    Hi all,

    312 Sq made several "Affiliation with bombers" indetified only as Whitleys in the ORB while based at Skeabrae and later at Peterhead.
    The excercises in question have occured on following dates:

    24.7.1943
    27.7.1943
    6.8.1943
    7.8.1943
    16.9.1943

    I am interested if it would be possible to identify the unit of Whitleys?
    My guess is an Air Gunners School or OTU based in Scotland which may use Whitleys for training and it may be training flight for both sides - gunners in bomber + fighters?

    Any ideas much appreciated.

    TIA

    Pavel
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    It sounds like it could be bombers using the bases as a staging point to refuel for a flight to Norway. That will make it more difficult to find. Or it could be a Coastal Command units on detachment. I don't recall any training units operating detachments there.

    When going through squadron ORBs I came across a lot of similar staging stops but didn't record them so I am only relying on my memory.

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    Hi Pavel,

    The No. 19 OTU ORB shows nothing for the dates provided.

    However, on 14 June at 1722 hrs "while on Fighter Affiliation, a Spitfire collided with a Kinloss Whitley "B" of "C" Flight (F/O Chisholm) damaging the starboard wing.
    The Spitfire crashed into the sea. The Whitley landed safely. Small pieces of wreckage and a pair of flying boots were found at the scene of the crash"

    Regards,

    Dave
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    Gents

    This appears to be the incident:

    14/06/1943 Spitfire P8664 of 58 OTU collided with Whitley LA847 of 19 OTU over Spey Bay, the Spitfire pilot, 141710 Leven DG, missing.

    DaveW

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    Hi all,
    many thanks for all your posts. So it looks like my guess with Whitley from a training unit may be correct but it would be difficult to establish particular unit without going through all avaiable ORBs and even there may be be nothing particular.
    So I will keep my text as general as "Whitley of training unit"

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    Pavel

    The Whitley's unit was 19 OTU ex Kinloss as per my post below which you may have missed.

    DaveW

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    Thanks Dave, yes I have seen it when I was reading the whole thread once more after my last post. So I have modified my text and added 19 OTU as a possible unit.

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