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    Birmingham Brandwood End Cemetery
    AC1 William James ROGERS, RAF VR 1273830, died 01-08-1942, Special Memorial.
    What caused the death of this aviator, and which circumstances led to the erection of a Special Memorial?

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    Hi Rob
    Rogers name doesn't come on the Ancestry registers for England and Wales and he could have thus died in Scotland. CWGC record all his family connections as in Birmingham and clearly he was brought "home" for burial. CWGC also record him as Commonwealth War Dead and this would usually have meant the CWGC pattern headstone. Just as bringing him home for burial was permitted, you might find that the family could elect to choose/provide their own headstone, hence the Special Memorial recorded on the CWGC site. It could even be that his name was simply added to an existing Family memorial and he was in a grave already containing past members of his Family
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    The Friends of Brandwood End Cemetery seem to be a well organised organisation and maybe worth contacting:

    http://www.fbec.org.uk/index.php

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    Thanks, guys.

    Amrit: will do.

    Dick: I came across several private graves for servicemen in the UK, or family graves that included a servicemen, that were not accompanied by a CWGC Special Memorial. Your assumption may still be true, and the issuing of Special Memorials may not always have been done according to a strict handbook.

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    Rob - Last year I contacted the following re a grave at Brandwood End Cemetery:
    Ian Wheeler - Asst. Bereavement Officer Brandwood End Cemetery
    Brandwood_EndCem@birmingham.gov.uk

    Give him full details of casualty particularly date of death and I am sure he will be able to help you

    Chris Pointon

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    Thanks, Chris. The contact details supplied by Amrit have already been used. Shall wait a bit for a response.

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    Gentlemen,

    Barrie of the Friends of Brandwood End Cemetery reorts as follows:

    "This is not a special memorial and there is no mystery.
    All families were offered the opportunity of having a Commonwealth War Graves Commission headstone for those killed in the service of their country, even if they were already buried in a family grave; this family simply took advantage of the offer of having a Commonwealth War Grave Memorial headstone in the Military Section in our cemetery, although he was interred in a family plot elsewhere in the cemetery."

    The CWGC reports his grave as a Special Memorial, without further qualifications, and this usually means that the real grave has been lost. In this case it is a Special Memorial of the "alternative commemoration" type, in the idiom of the CWGC, meaning that the grave is in another cemetery, or elsewhere in the same cemetery. Shall ask CWGC to improve the record entry, so as to avoid confusion.

    We are likely to find that many to most of the Special Memorials in cemeteries in the UK are of this type.

    Rob
    Last edited by Rob Philips; 18th August 2008 at 09:35.

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