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    Hello everyone,
    Does anyone perhaps know what Squadrons Richard Gentil served in, and during what period. I believe he was a pilot in the RAF. Richard Gentil is author of "Trained to Intrude" printed in 1974.

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    Mieszko, No sign of him in the London Gazette. Regards, Terry

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    Mieszko/Terry,

    Richard Gentil.
    b. 27 Feb 1917
    m. Q1 1961 a Richard J C Gentil m Patricia M McCoy Reg Kensington 5c 2458
    d. Nov 1994 Reg Kensington & Chelsea 2391B B48B 184

    There’s a Joseph Charles Gentil (658812) on AIR 78/60/7 Image 125 3L (but the images are very poor!). He has the same Birth/Death Reg as Richard (J C?) Gentil, but FREEBMD won’t let me see the Page entry (it’s after 1992!). Are we looking at twins here? TFD!

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    Peter Davies
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    We might not know - but we might know who does!

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    I think the logical progression here is


    Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
    Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
    Gentil Joseph C Martron Kingston 2a 654 Scan available - click to view


    Marriages Jun 1945 (>99%)
    Gentil Joseph C Stocks Calder 9a 1352 Scan available - click to view

    Marriages Mar 1961 (>99%)
    GENTIL Richard J C McCOY Kensington 5c 2458 Scan available - click to view

    d. Nov 1994 Reg Kensington & Chelsea 2391B B48B 18

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    Richard Gentil
    England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
    birth:
    27 February 1917
    death registration:
    November 1994
    Kensington & Chelsea, London, England


    Same individual with forename change en route

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    http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewt...4947&start=100


    This is just one of hundreds of Anson incidents and accidents involving Ansons during the British Commonwalth Air Training Plan's operation in Canada during the Second World War.

    This accident ocrurred at 11:15 hours on the 7th of July, 1942 at No. 5 Service Flying training School, Brantford, Ontario. It involved two Avro ansons.

    Anson Mk. III s/n 6049
    Flying Instructor - J7068 Pilot Officer W.J. Whittaker, R.C.A.F.
    Pupil Pilot - 658812 LAC J. C. Gentil, R.A.F.
    Other Crew - R88938 LAC A.S. Barkey, R.C.A.F.
    Other Crew - 133620 LAC L. Williams, R.C.A.F.

    *Note: LAC is short for Leading Aircraftman

    The second aircraft, an Avro Anson Mk. I serial number 6838 was unnocupied.
    Both aircraft sustained Category B damage as a result of the accident.

    The Pupil Pilot was carrying out Sequences 6,7,8, under the guidance of the flying instructor. While approaching to land, Anson 6049 veered to the left of the corner of the hangar. The pilot banked to miss the hangar and ended up hitting Anson 6383 on the port wing with its undercarriage. The Anson proceeded to carry on and crash on top of a gravel pile between the hangars.

    Thankfully there were no injuries. It would appear that the school`s Chief Flying Instructor was not amused. Pilot Officer Whittacker`s Flying Instructor`s Log Book was endorsed Carelessness. He ended up doing four days of Orderly Officer as a disciplinary action.

    Cheers...Chris

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    Terry, Peter, Paul, and Chris,

    Thank you all for your help, time and effort! I have managed to find a copy of “Trained to Intrude” for a low price, $4 plus shipping. When the book arrives, in “two to three weeks", I will be able to post more about the author and his service.

    Thank you all once again,
    Mieszko

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    Hello everyone,

    I received my copy of “Trained To Intrude” a few days ago. The author, Richard Gentil, goes into some detail about his training, however he rarely mentions any dates or service unit numbers, and mentions very little of his own background. He also rarely mentions any names of fellow airmen. Here’s what I was able to make of his military service:

    - Born in Wimbledon.
    - Wanted to join RAF during 1939, but was rejected.
    - Worked for postal service, December 1939.
    - Started working for Short Brothers 1940, worked on assembly of Stirling bombers.
    - Called up for Army service.
    - Billeted in Dover Castle May 1940 for training, “Royal Artillery, 34th Signals”.
    - September moved to Preston.
    - “RAF medical” in Blackpool after “18 months” from first attempt to join RAF.
    - Early 1941, Lords Cricket Ground, collected new RAF uniform, etc.
    - Initial Training Wing Scarborough.
    - Heaton Park, from which he “volunteered” for training in Canada.
    - No. 1 Manning Depot, Toronto, Canada. (mentions to avoid ladies on Jarvis St…)
    - No. 10 EFTS, Mount Hope, Hamilton, Canada.
    - Brantford, Ontario, Canada, Service Flying Training School (SFTS).
    - No. 11 AFU, Shawbury, UK.
    - Staff Pilot duties, “RADAR Navigation School”, Usworth, UK.
    - Night Fighter Conversion, Grantham, UK.
    - OTU Cranfield (51 OTU ?).
    - Arrived in a “Night Fighter Squadron in Norfolk”, summer 1944.
    - In November 1944, this squadron received the “New MK XIX Mosquito”.

    The author finishes his book with barely a mention of his time in the “night fighter squadron”. As if there is a second book that covers this period.

    So my original question still remains; does anyone know which squadron Richard Gentil served in?

    Thank you,
    Mieszko

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    Possibly 85 or 157 Sqn ?

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    Only a few squadrons operating in England were equipped with the Mk. XIX. Aside from use by BDSU (Bomber Support Development Unit) these were 68, 85, 157 and 169. 85 and 157 were using the Mk. XIX by May 1944, 68 in late June, but 169 did not reequip until January 1945. So no likely matches for November '44.

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    Tom

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