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    P/O GEORGE WATERS TIBBETTS 158564 killed with 202 Squadron 9th June 1943.

    George Waters TIBBETTS, D.F.M. ( as per London Gazette,) unable to find in Ian Tavender's DFM Register?

    Can anyone please tell me the circumstances of his death, and citation?


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    Steve, Hi,
    George Waters Tibbetts
    b. 1921(?) if he was 18 when he Enlisted.
    Enlisted (very early Sep 1939) 965832 (TNA AIR 78/158/2 I294) in Block 965000-1149977 RAFVR Padgate 01-Sep-39 to 31-Mar-41.
    13 May 1943 965832 Flt Sgt G W Tibbetts, DFM, Cmd Plt Off(p) RAFVR GD
    d. 9 Jun 1943 202 Sqn Catalina 1b FP214 Flew into high ground nr Algeciras (which they shouldn’t have been anywhere near! The ‘high ground’ nr Algeciras is 11nm west along the extended centre-line of Gib runway).
    7 other crew killed (source RAFWEB – for which tks!).
    HTH
    Peter Davies

    Weak low pressure located over central Spain. Nil, or light cyclonic, wind flow Gib/Algeciras. Little cloud. Good Vis.
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    Steve

    No D.F.M. on his CWGC entry: https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/c...george-waters/

    As Peter already mentioned, he's listed as being a casualty in Catalina FP214. See also: http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=FP214

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    Hi,

    Probably a mistake:

    1366094 John Wilson HALKETT (158604) - next to Tibbetts - had D.F.M. ...

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/5028

    1366094 Flight Sergeant John Wilson HALKETT, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, No. 114 Squadron, 29th October, 1943.

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/4767

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    Hello All,
    I “took-off” from Gib at 0800 on 9 Jun 1943. I “followed” the Gib centre-line on the “auto-pilot”. “TAS 115-120kts” (to replicate a Catalina). “Rate of Climb 500fpm” (ditto). Passed (reasonably!) clear of the high-ground (1740 ft AMSL) at GE 36.142155 -5.528784 at 0806. So if we know the precise impact location, and the time (and time of take-off), we can work out what they probably did – as opposed to what the SOPs said they should have been doing!
    This is just to try to find an answer to the question “Why” – as opposed to the hardware/personnel numbers/names.
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    Gents,

    Sincere thanks.

    Regards

    Steve
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