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    Default 1950's Training Exercises

    Can anyone shed any light on the 1950s continuation / operational training exercises referred to as Backchat, Eyewash and Pinplot?

    UPDATE: Ongoing research suggests that these may be radar training targets

    Your usual help would be much appreciated

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    Hi Pete,

    while doing research for one of my previous books I came across Backchat exercise of B-29 squadron in the 1950s and it was a simulation of bombing with a radar without use of bombs.

    Pavel
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    Thanks Pavel

    That supports my findings to date ... 35 Squadron were equipped with the Washington at the time too

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    Pete, it is three years I wash researching the Washingtons era. I cannot remember now but was there also any 35 Sq member flying Washingtons of Czech/Slovak origin? There were some with 15, 44, 90 and 149 Squadrons in Coningsby.

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    PeteT/Pavel (et al),
    Then there were the “Alerts”. The ‘Bomber Controller’ would announce – over the loudspeakers which 'ticked' every second all over all the Ops Blocks – “Alert TASMAN . . . “. IIRC, if ‘Tasman’ was followed by a letter in the phonetic alphabet then that was some sort of exercise. If, however, it was followed by a ‘colour’ then that was to generate an operational process with live weapons and Force dispersal. Was on duty for one of those – the Cuba Crisis – but can’t remember what the Bomber Controller had actually said! Was too busy!!!
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    Default Re: 1950's Training Exercises

    I have now been looking at 35 Sqn, especially the bombing ranges used in the fifties and came across those three code named exercises

    Backchat - has already been mentioned and seems to be a simulated radar bombing exercise on a specific location with poor old Kidlington and Shoeburyness being the favourites.

    Eyewash - I assume, is another form of sim bombing but how did it differ from Backchat?

    Pinpoint - As above but maybe the code name is a clue?

    I wonder if there is a training manual from the era that describes them in more detail?

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    I am really struggling getting information regarding this era.

    There seems to be very little documented about the Bomber Command Crew Classification Scheme, Trade Classification Schemes, Training Programmes, Exercises etc (which has surprised me a little) .... but hopefully bits and pieces will come out of the woodwork as I progress

    I would welcome any suggestions regarding Air Publications, Air Ministry Orders or books that might help with my quest

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    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Hi Pete
    Might be worth joining/registering on Pprune

    https://www.pprune.org

    There are Aircrew from that era who regularly post on there.Either on the Aviation History and Nostalgia forum or perhaps better in the Military Aviation forum.

    Right down the bottom left of the homepage is a tiny dropdown menu which sets the Homepage Layout,I have mine set to PPRune NG which gives a normal forum homepage look/layout.

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