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    Default 25 November 1943 – Mission over Central France

    Hello/Bonjour,

    On November 25, 1943, during an air-raid warning on the Bourges airfield (Central France), Stabszahmeister Boll was killed when its motorbike collided with another driven by Uffz. Nietzsche who was, for its part, seriously injured (both belonging to Flugzeugführerschule B15). I assume that it is like looking “for a needle in a haystack” but I try to identify the unit which was flying the area that day around 19h30 (7:30 pm) - German time. RAF Squadron fitted with Boston or Mosquito twin-engines were accustomed to this airspace (…Avord airfield is also very close).

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    Frederic

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    Hi Frederic, I don't have the Air Ministry Int Summary for 25 Nov 43, but I have a version of it issued by HQ 4 Group Bomber Command. The overall picture on 25 Nov looks like:

    US VIII Air Force - nil
    ADGB:
    - 'numerous attacks in 4 waves including 305 sorties by typhoons, mitchells and bostons against targets in northern France.'
    - '8 mosquito bombers attacked power stations at Falaise, Aube and Vezins and engine sheds at Laigle.'
    - '8 whirlwinds attacked shipping in Cherbourg, with a spitfire escort. Other spitfires dispatched against ground targets in Holland.'
    - 'Thunderbolt bombers escorted by thunderbolts attacked airfields in northern France, Lightnings carrying out a sweep. 3 Me109s, 3 FW190s destroyed and 3 e/a probables. Flak emplacement destroyed.'
    - 'Night 25/26 Nov - 28 mosquitoes and 4 beaufighters carried out offensive sweeps against airfields in northern France, Holland and Western Germany.'

    Bomber Command ORB details the following for 25/26 Nov:
    - '224 of 262 aircraft (236 halifaxes, 26 PFF lancasters) attacked Frankfurt' - I don't have the route for this one.
    - '3 mosquitoes on Berlin.'
    - 'Minelaying - 38 of 48 a/c dropped 120 mines in allotted areas.'
    - 'Leaflets - 27 of 28 a/c dropped leaflets over Paris and other towns in France.'

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    Richard

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    Hello Richard,

    ...and thank you for this overall picture, I have at least now a "chew bone"!

    Best regards,
    Frederic

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    Hello/Bonjour,

    It could be an air raid warning due to the detection of aircrafts on leaflets mission.

    Regarding such missions for that night, I found this: “25/26 November 1943: Amiens, Arras, Beauvais, Cambrai, Chartres, Châteaudun, Creil, Dreux, Epernay, Etampes, Laon, Orléans, Paris, Saint-Quentin, Versailles. [...] Chartres, Chateaudun, Orleans [...], among other cities, are south of Paris, as is Bourges. Missions carried out by O.T.U. aircraft?

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    Frederic

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    Hi Frederic, yes, they’d be OTU crews almost certainly.

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    Hi Richard,

    Thank you for that confirmation, I will now try to find out which OTU's unit/aircrew is involved.

    Best regards,
    Frederic

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