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    All Thanks for this

    I need to get my list together

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    As part of my research into prewar RAF - Do you mind if I get a copy of


    Catterick ORB 05 Aug 36-31 May 40,


    Hawkinge ORB 30 Jun-31 Jul 42


    Northolt ORB 10 Jun 24-23 May 36

    Report on Air Exercises 1932 held by ADGB Command 18-21 July 1932, AIR 10/1523

    Air Ministry: Fighter Command: Registered Files. Home defence exercises, Sep 37-Aug 38, TNA AIR 16/68 (Some pages only)

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    ORBS

    Sqn

    AIR 27/731/1 90 Sqn ORB 1937 Mar 01 - 1941 July 31

    AIR 27/541/0-2 Squadron Number 57 Appendices YDate 1939 Nov 01 - 1945 Feb 28

    AIR 27/640 Squadron Number: 74 Summary of Events: 1935 Sept 01 - 1940 Dec 31

    AIR 27/641 Squadron Number: 74 Summary of Events: 1941 Jan 01 - 1942 Dec 31

    Groups

    AIR 25/545 - ORB No 25 Armanent Group Eastchurch 1934 Feb.-1944 Dec.


    Training

    AIR/29/604 - Central Flying School. Formed at Upavon (UK) in May 1912. Disbanded in April 1942. Contains Defence Scheme of Vunerable Points, newspaper cuttings and a water colour of the School's armorial bearings.Includes 8 photographs depicting: Central Flying School, RAF Upavon: aerial views: visit by HM King George VI: rows of aircraft (unidentified). Dated 1938. With appendices


    Various

    AIR 14/1 - Analysis of Lying Accidents and Accidents Book 1936 June-1939 Mar



    AIR 81 Casualty Files Part 1

    Apologies if I got any of these from elsewhere on this forum -

    Please Email me if not happy and I will remove

    AIR 81/1 - Pilot Officer W J Murphy, Flight Lieutenant W F Barton, Flying Officer H L Emden, Flying Officer H B Lightoller, Flying Officer J F Ross, Aircraftman 1st Class R Evans, Sergeant L R Ward, Sergeant S G M Otty, Corporal J L Ricketts, Aircraftman 2nd Class E Pateman, Sergeant O L D Howells, Aircraftman 1st Class E W Lyon and Sergeant A S Prince: report of deaths. Sergeant G F Booth and Aircraftman 2nd Class L J Slattery: prisoners of war. Pilot Sergeant R C Grossey: missing presumed dead; raid by Blenheims N6199, N6184, N6186, N6189 and N6240 on Wilhelmshaven, 4 September 1939

    AIR 81/2 - Sergeant D E Jarvis, Acting Sergeant B G Walton, Flight Sergeant A J Turner, Aircraftman 2nd Class G T Brocking and Aircraftman 2nd Class K G Day: report of deaths; raid by Wellington L5275 on Brunsbuttel, 4 September 1939

    AIR 81/3 - Pilot Officer L H Edwards: prisoner of war. Leading Aircraftman J Quilter, Sergeant A O Heslop and Aircraftman 1st Class G Sheffield: missing presumed dead; Anson K6183 failed to return from patrol over the North Sea, 5 September 1939

    AIR 81/10 - Acting Flight Lieutenant W C G Cogman, Pilot Officer A W Mack, Sergeant G T Henry, Aircraftman 1st Class A Steel and Corporal S R Wood: prisoners of war; Whitley L8985 forced to land in Belgium, 9 September 1939

    ***INCORRECT DO NOT HAVE**** AIR 81/11 - Pilot Officer D S M Burrell: report of death; Anson K6317 in an attack on an enemy flying boat, 19 September 1939

    AIR 81/104 - Flying Officer E J Kain: injured; Hurricane P2543 hit by cannon shell; aircraft abandoned at Ritzing, France; 26 March 1940

    AIR 81/206 - Pilot Officer H J R Dunn: injured; Hurricane P2362 force landed due to a shortage of petrol, 9 May 1940

    AIR 81/299 - Temporary Warrant Officer B T P Carey, Temporary Warrant Officer T S Campion and Flight Lieutenant N M Thomas: prisoners of war; Battle P2332 crashed near Maastricht, The Netherlands, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/301 - Sergeant E G Roberts, Leading Aircraftman E W L Cooper and Pilot Officer C R Frankish: report of deaths; Blenheim P6912 failed to return from an operational flight; crashed near Diepenbeek, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/303 - Sergeant J B Horner, Sergeant L C Flisher and Leading Aircraftman L D Davies: report of deaths; Battle K9353 shot down near Bouillon, Belgium, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/304 - Sergeant H R Hall, Sergeant E R Perrin and Leading Aircraftman P J McDonnell: report of deaths; Blenheim P6914 crashed at Gellick, Belgium, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/307 - Sergeant G F Couzens: report of death. Aircraftman 1st Class R Shuttleworth and Pilot Officer G K R Drimmie: prisoners of war; Blenheim P6930 crashed at Vlijtingen, Belgium, 13 May 1940

    AIR 81/313 - Sergeant A L F Webb, Leading Aircraftman A C B Burgess and Acting Flight Lieutenant A D Watson: missing presumed dead; Blenheim L8739 hit by anti-aircraft fire and crashed near Meuse, The Netherlands, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/314 - Sergeant H D Welch, Leading Aircraftman K Parry and Pilot Officer C Bellis: report of deaths; Blenheim L8861 crashed at Kanne, near Maastricht, The Netherlands, 12 May 1940

    AIR 81/561 - Sergeant P Bloomer, Pilot Officer D S R Harriman and Pilot Officer J H Gordon: report of deaths; Blenheim P6913 crashed at Hervelinghen, France, 25 May 1940

    AIR 81/1536 - Flying Officer J H Warren: killed; Gladiator N2313 and Gladiator N230519, 65 Squadron; mid-air collision, September 1939

    AIR 81/1551 - Pupil Pilot P B Trier: injured; Tiger Moth G-ADOA, 10 Elementary Flying Training School; aircraft accident, 26 September 1939

    AIR 81/1762 - Leading Aircraftman E H Shayler: killed; Leading Aircraftman A Lawson: missing believed killed; aircraft collision, Swordfish L2774, 810 Squadron, HMS Ark Royal, 25 November 1939

    AIR 81/1794 - Pilot Officer D J Bain: injured; Sergeant W S Herring, Aircraftman D J Drake, Flying Officer C S H Richardson: uninjured; aircraft accident, Castle Cary, Anson K8819, School of Navigation, 16 January 1940

    AIR 81/1845 - Pilot Officer W B Hunter, Pilot Officer G W Winder: killed; mid-air collision between Demon K8196 and Demon K5736, 1 Air Armament School, Donna Nook Ranges, 24 February 1940

    AIR 81/1970 - Leading Aircraftman A C Beech: missing; Pilot Officer W A Mostyn-Brown: injured; mid-air collision between Heyford K6893 and Heyford K6896, 4 Bombing and Gunnery School, 4 April 1940

    AIR 81/1994 - Flying Officer A C Stewart: injured; Aircraftman G Lindsay: killed; aircraft accident, Foucaucourt, France, Blenheim L9181, 57 Squadron, 11 April 1940

    AIR 81/2497 - Sergeant J B Thomson: killed; Aircraftman E J Toy, Mr D M Gordon, Sergeant E Waite, Leading Aircraftman T Ward, Sergeant C K Richardson: missing believed killed; aircraft accident, Swansea, possible mid-air collision between Blenheim L1408, 29 Squadron, and Blenheim L6722, 25 Squadron, 1 August 1940

    AIR 81/2544 - Flying Officer J M Strickland: injured; 213 Squadron, shot down, enemy action during British Expeditionary Forces evacuation of France, 19 May 1940

    Other

    TNA_BT27_1563 Nominal Roll RAF Station Halifax NS Jul 1941


    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths

    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths 1916 to 1920

    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths 1921 to 1925

    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths 1926 to 1930

    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths 1931 to 1935

    British Armed Forces Overseas Deaths 1936 to 1940

    US Navy Casualty Reports Aviation Accidents 1932 To 1941.pdf

    RAF Muster List 1919 - In Excel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Brew View Post

    Does your copy of AIR 27/978 list the earlier OCs? I understand that Frederick Sowrey was OC, 143 Sqn from 14 Feb 18, but are you able to say when his tenure ended, please? The next posting I have for him is to RAF Depot, Uxbridge, on 01 Apr 20.

    Separately, do you have any visibility/knowledge of the 11 (Irish) Wing ORB at Baldonnell in 1920?

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    Steve,From "The Sowreys" by Air Commodore GRaham Pitchfork, I can advise that Freddie assumed command of 143 Squadron at Detling on, or shortly after, the 4th of February 1918, when he left 37 Squadron. In the same book there is a good account of his engagement with a German Gotha on the 19th/20th of May 1918, as well as a photo of the wreckage of the German aircraft after it had been shot down. Fred was certainly still commanding 143 Squadron on the 22nd of October that year, when he wrote to his wing commander, a transcript of which is also in the book. The book doesn't give a definite date when he surrendered command of 143, but does state that he was given command of other squadrons "for short periods throughout 1919".

    I have copies of his long service papers from TNA in WO339/11454 and WO339/11424 which I'd be happy to consult for you if it was of help? Additionally, I have copies of various documents relating to 11 (Irish) Group that I have copied over the years as part of my research into 100 Squadron's time in Ireland. Drop me an email to gregATgreg-harrison.co.uk if you want me to dig around in them for you.

    All the very best,

    Greg
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    Thanks for posting your list, Jonny.

    Could you do a look-up for me on the 17 OTU ORB, please?

    Wg Cdr Anthony Leach was OC 90 Sqn from 13 Feb 39 to 4 Apr 40. I understand the unit was then disbanded and was absorbed into 17 OTU, but I have no information on Leach's whereabouts between April and September 1940, when he was posted to RAF Binbrook at Station Commander. Can you tell me if Leach carried over as OC of 17 OTU, please?

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    Hi Peter

    Thanks for posting. Could you do a look-up of the 12 SFTS ORB for me, please?

    One of my inter-wars pilots, Flt Lt Hugh Patrick Wilson served out a SSC from April 1928-April 1933, and was then transferred to reserve but called up again for the duration of hostilities on 1 Sep 1939. I think he was then posted to 12 SFTS as a flying instructor and remained there until April 1941, when he was dismissed for scandalous conduct in a GCM.

    Can you add anything to that, dates, details, a confirmation or otherwise?

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    Hey Paul

    The requested files have been sent via Dropbox.

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    Steve,

    Grp Capt J.K. Summers MC commanded 17 OTU from its formation in April 1040.

    Wg Cdr A. Leach MC is mentioned on 22 Apr 40 as assuming command of the OTU in the absence of the Grp Capt (absent on leave), but relinquished this 2 days later.

    On the 9 May 40 the ORB states "Wg Cdr A. Leach MC assumed command of that Section of 17 O.T.U. formerly known as 90 SQUADRON, vice S/Ldr C.C. House."

    He temporarily assumed command of the OTU again 5 - 12 Aug 40.

    At some point the OTU was reorganised. Leach is mentioned on 20 Aug 40 as departing on 7 days' leave and handing over command of "Training Wing, No. 17 OTU."

    The next entry in the ORB dated 23 Sep 40, states Wg Cdr L.R. Stokes was posted in from 107 Sqn as OC Trg Wing, Vice Wg Cdr Leach (posted to RAF Binbrook).

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    Steve,

    Sorry, no mention of Flt Lt Hugh Patrick Wilson in the sheets I copied, but there were a lot I didn't copy, due to limited sized memory card on my camera at the time.

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    Hi Greg

    Sorry about the radio silence.

    Thanks for this info, which is most appreciated, though I must admit I am a little confused about the reference to him joining 143 Sqn "on, or shortly after, the 4th of February 1918, when he left 37 Squadron". My notes - though I am happy to be corrected - show:

    39 Sqn, 17 Jun 16
    37 Sqn, 3 Jan 17
    HQ RFC & att 1 Cavalry Div, 21 Feb 17
    19 Sqn, 14 Jun 17
    143 Sqn, 14 Feb 18
    RAF Depot, 1 Apr 20
    11 (Irish) Wg (by 8 Oct 20)
    OC, 100 Sqn, 19 Feb 21

    So, ultimately, my question comes down to what Sowrey was doing in 1919, and when he was posted to 11 (Irish) Wing. Any assistance would be appreciated.

    I have e-mailed you separately regarding Sowrey's long service papers.

    Thanks again
    Steve
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    Thanks Jonny and Peter for your replies.

    Jonny - a great help, thanks.

    Steve
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