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    Default Clarification sought on Halifax II V9977 of the TFU at Defford

    Hello All,
    Halifax II V9977 of the TFU at Defford(?) crashed at Welsh Bicknor on 7 Jun 1942. There was a ridge of high pressure with a fresh N’ly wind at Defford with good vis. They would probably have taken off from r/w 35(?). The purpose of the flight was in the development of airborne radar. The 11 occupants (Service and civilian) were all killed. It was a severe set-back in the development programme.
    In the recent issue of Air Mail (the RAFA magazine) a relative(?) of one of the civilian casualties is seeking contact with NoK/descendants of the casualties. His list of casualties/ranks is not exactly the same as those garnered from “the usual sources”.
    Does anyone know where the cause of the crash is resolved, and the functions/titles of the casualties?
    TIA
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    If you 'google' Halifax V9977 their is a full report from aviation safety network with a set of other locations. There is also a RAF museum at Defford (Croome Park) and I am sure they have enormous amount about the crash.

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    Thanks for that, Bill. Just what I needed. I'll pass it on.
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    Peter,

    The scientific team on board were those responsible for the development of H2S, and their loss was felt most keenly. Somewhere at home I have an article that someone wrote for a magazine I was editor of, about 20 years ago, with lots of detail in it on this crash, which was caused, I believe, by an engine fire. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

    All the best as always my friend,

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    https://www.newscientist.com › article › mg13017667-100-f. This is a huge article on the crash with a lot of background to the scientists.

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    One curiosity for me in the New Scientist article, the quote: 'one of the three Merlins on the plane which had been made in Britain'.

    Is it conceivable that a Packard-built Merlin could have been mixed in with three RR-built units on the same Halifax? Assume the Form 1180 would confirm.

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    Rob,

    If i get chance later when I'm home, I'll have a look at the F1180 for the aircraft,

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    I've never heard of any Packard Merlins in the Halifax. I wonder if this cold be a misunderstanding based on a very large number of single-stage Merlins being built by Ford UK as opposed to "real" RR ones? More likely just a mistake, but an odd one.

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