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    Default Bertram C Whittle Photographs

    MAY BE OF INTEREST

    I have recently been sent a link to a photo album which provides a collection of photos covering Bertram C Whittle's / Peter R Whittle's service with the RAF. http://www.flickr.com/photos/188470206@N05/

    It was sent to me because there were a couple of 35 Squadron related photographs, but there are a wide range of photos, which were annotated after the war; his son (Eric) is now interested to know if the captions are accurate and whether any more detail can now be added to supplement the descriptions.

    I have suggested that he adds a reference number to each photograph to make it easier to provide feedback and the practicality of this is being investigated (as there are other unpublished albums too)

    Feel free to add your feedback on this thread and I will pass the information on to Eric
    Last edited by PeteT; 18th June 2020 at 11:18.
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Default Re: Bertram C Whittle Photographs

    Pete T
    A very interesting album, thank you for posting. I hope this might be useful to Eric...
    #1815 Falcon Field, Mesa, Arizona, 1941. Aircraft is a Vultee BT-13A. Falcon Field was Mesa, AZ and Thunderbird Field was Phoenix AZ.
    #17ff Vultee BT-13 A, 41-1577. [Note data block near windscreen. BT-13A 41-1577 is recorded as being assigned to Phoenix and Mesa].
    A rough guide to #4 BFTS School Nos....
    Boeing PT-17 & - 17A, marked with school nos. “BP1” and up, assigned June 1941
    Vultee BT-13As marked "BP100" – "BP120". First BT's assigned to Phoenix 7 & 8.41 and to Mesa between 8 & 10.41. Reassigned away November 1942.
    North American AT-6A, etc., marked "BP121" – "BP270". First AT's assigned to Mesa. 9.41.
    #182e Not able to identify this accident aircraft other than it being an AT-6. If the given date and location are correct then this is unlikely to be a #4 BFTS accident – as one of the other captions states the RAF school moved from
    Thunderbird Field, Phoenix to the newly established Falcon Field, near Mesa in August 1941 and the AT-6s were assigned to #4 BFTS from around September.
    #185a The following from the AAF IARC:
    AT-6A, 41-585. Assigned Mesa 22.9.41 - (wrecked Bradshaw Hts AZ 12.10.41. Pilot Denys William E. Morgan LAC UK** flew into storm and struck mountain - complete loss) - w/o.
    LAC. Morgan (Course #2) escaped by parachute. Bradshaw Mountains appears to be about 20 km SSE of Prescott. It may be Morgan was on solo navex via Prescott.
    #1866 Photo included in “The RAF in Arizona, Falcon Field 1941 – 1945”, caption as reads follows: “Dated October 6, 1941, this official U.S., Army photograph shows the aftermath of a Stearman crash caused when both aircraft landed at the
    same time, one on top of the other. A similar accident occurred during a night flying exercise in November”.
    I have found no RAF or USAAF accident reports for this one.
    #1804 His first solo flight would have in a Stearman biplane, this must been his BT solo.
    #1851 Flying Instructor F.O. Smith mentioned on page 40 of the above book.

    Freshman
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    Default Re: Bertram C Whittle Photographs

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    Thanks for the detailed feedback; I have just provided Eric with a link to this thread so hopefully he will see your response when he picks up his messages (he is not in the UK so operates to different time zone)
    Main areas of research:

    - CA Butler and the loss of Lancaster ME334 (http://rafww2butler.wordpress.com/ )
    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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