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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Brian, Hi,
    Mid-Apr 1934 is the mathematical best Enlistment date. He came in "off the streets" as they say in the Recruiting trade! He's on AIR 78/11/3 I-188 R1C1. If he was 18 when he walked into the Recruiting Office then he would have been born around/before 1916? There's a large number of 'George Bateman's' around that time. He died 17 Jun 1940 on 98 Sqn. Best I can do!
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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    That`s great information, He was born in 1912 Thank you and everyone regarding this enquiry,it will give me lots of information to follow.
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    Brian Wakelin

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Brian,
    FREEBMD has two George (no middle name) Bateman in 1912. If you are certain which one, then you might copy that to CWGC - they have no age data in his entry!
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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Thanks again,

    QUOTE=Resmoroh;152303]Brian,
    FREEBMD has two George (no middle name) Bateman in 1912. If you are certain which one, then you might copy that to CWGC - they have no age data in his entry!
    HTH
    Peter Davies[/QUOTE]

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Looking at his service number, which falls in the batch 505001 to 549999, it would appear that George may have enlisted, as a civilian, during October 1925.

    Cheers, Andrew

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Thanks for that Andrew,

    George was definitely born in 1912 and the Fisher Act of 1918 made it compulsory for children to attend school until the age of 14 and so even if he concealed his age on enlistment he could not join until after May of 1926. I was wondering where an Airman of 1934-5 would have been trained initially?


    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewClark View Post
    Looking at his service number, which falls in the batch 505001 to 549999, it would appear that George may have enlisted, as a civilian, during October 1925.

    Cheers, Andrew

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Hello Again Peter, I have looked at sending the information to CWGC but they seem to require documentary evidence before they will add the information.

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    No disrespect to my more learned colleagues, but this service number indicates an enlistment date in Oct / Nov 1936.

    It is worthy of note that Wg Cdr Jim Routledge's handy guide to RAF service numbers, indicates when a block of numbers was issued. In the case of this block (for service numbers 505001 to 549999 allocated to civilian entrants), it was issued in Oct 1925 and then used from that point onwards. Just because a service number sits in this block, doesn't mean to say it was actually allocated to a serviceman in Oct 1925.

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Wakelin View Post
    Thank you, It would seem to me that George may have been in the service before tho outbreak of WW2 at that time I believe the squadron had "Hind" aircraft which I understand were bi-planes and perhaps had fabric skinned wings?
    Yes Brian - the Hind had fabric wings and fuselage except for the engine cowlings/cockpit area.
    Interestingly (or not) I attended the 98sqn disbandment dance at RAF Cottesmore in Feb 1976,not in any official capacity - I was the driver/roadie for the band - the band members were from 115 sqn - I was a 'Rigger' on the Canberra OCU at that time.98 sqn had been flying Canberras for some years in the electronic calibration/flight checking role.
    Also perhaps of interest is that my Mum was a Balloon Rigger during WW2 which included some fabric work and winch driving.

    rgds baz

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    Default Re: Help with a strange trade description for LAC George Bateman 535546

    Jonny thanks for the indicative date indie of 1936 I don’t suppose you could provide us with a guide on here for your date analysis which is better indicator of the from date that most of us have to use ?

    Thanks Paul

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