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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteT View Post
    Thanks for all your responses.

    I am trying to identify those that served with No. 35 Squadron, but at the moment, I can only find the details for one (although I am sure there were others)
    Pete,

    The only one I know is, 533809 F/Sgt (Pilot) William Bruce ARCHIBALD RAF +30/31 March 1942 - No.35 Sqn - Halifax II R9496 (Trinidad).

    https://www.caribbeanaircrew-ww2.com/?p=81

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    There was a 630 Squadron Pilot named Alfred Henriquez (killed in action August 1944) several pictures of him on the website
    https://630squadron.wordpress.com/

    There was a 9 Squadron Air Gunner who was pictured in Lancaster at War Vol 2 (page 124) Sergt Leslie Francis Gilkes RAFVR, he was killed on 3 Aug 1943 and I know of Sergt L O Lynch of 102 Sqdn who was a Rear Gunner, awarded a DFM

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    Hi Pete,
    This caught my attention on ebay a couple of months ago. I thought you might find it of interest. It sold for a hefty £60, but I saved the image. Its marked as 166 Sqn Kirmington 1945. Should be able to put a name to him. Any good ?




    Also, The RAF Museum had a special exhibition at Hendon about Caribbean Airmen a few years ago

    https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/researc...caribbean.aspx
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    I have a question about this. Why are they regarded as "African-Caribbean", Were they all defendants of African slaves, or were they, or some, in fact Indigenous Caribbean's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyflyer1 View Post
    Hi Pete,
    This caught my attention on ebay a couple of months ago. I thought you might find it of interest. It sold for a hefty £60, but I saved the image. Its marked as 166 Sqn Kirmington 1945. Should be able to put a name to him. Any good ?




    Also, The RAF Museum had a special exhibition at Hendon about Caribbean Airmen a few years ago

    https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/researc...caribbean.aspx
    Hello,

    One possibility (needs positive identification*):

    605619 Sgt (Nav.) Allan Percy POON-TIP RAFVR (Trinidad) + 4/5 April 1945 - No.166 Sqn - Lancaster III ND707:AS-E - LUTZKENDORF (BCL6/153).

    https://losses.internationalbcc.co.uk/loss/118825

    The crew were on their 10th op (On Wings Of War A History of 166 Squadron/Wright,Jim/Kirkby Park:166 Sqn Assoc.,1966. p.152)

    * http://raf166squadron.com/Individuals.htm scroll down to Flg.Off. Laurence Felix McGuire & Flg. Off. James Day. And http://aircrewremembered.com/day-james.html There are similarities (Day/Pilot)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    I have a question about this. Why are they regarded as "African-Caribbean", Were they all defendants of African slaves, or were they, or some, in fact Indigenous Caribbean's.
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    The Taíno peoples of almost all Caribbean people were pretty much wiped out by the Spanish conquests. The neo-Taíno (descendants with some Taíno blood) are spread amongst the islands but their political self-identification with their indigenous side is a relatively modern thing (post-war mainly). There are people closely associated with the original Taino people but they are predominantly in places like Cuba. During the war it would have been pretty much black, mulatto or white.

    EDIT: I also forgot the descendents of the Chinese and Indian endured workers brought over in the mid-C19th to places like Jamaica.

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    Thanks Amrit,
    I just found it odd that it seems that those that served were not some of the "original" people. Did any actually serve , it seems not ?
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    EDIT: I also forgot the descendents of the Chinese and Indian endured workers brought over in the mid-C19th to places like Jamaica.
    I found quite a few (3-4?) 'Indian' sounding names among the carribean aircrew...

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    FWIW, 41 Squadron had three pilots from the Caribbean and one from South America (Uruguay) during WWII. Probably little help to you as they were in fighters, but I don't have all their postings, so you never know...

    They were:

    FARFAN [FARFAN DE LOS GODOS], Fernand William, RAFVR; b Montserrat, Trinidad, 29 Aug 21; 4 ITW, 1941; 8 EFTS, 1941; 9 SFTS, 1941; Sgt Plt (157691), 1942; 61 OTU, 1942; 601 Sqn, 22 Mar 42; 80 Sqn, 1 Oct 42; 123 Sqn, 22 Oct 42; com Prob Plt Off (157691), 10 Mar 43; AHQ Air Defence, Eastern Med, 8 Sep 43; Fg Off (WS), 10 Sep 43; HQ 11 Grp, 1943; FI, 57 OTU, 8 Dec 43; 1 FLS, 22 May 44; 83 GSU, 14 Jun 44; 602 Sqn, 17 Jul 44; 41 Sqn, 24 Mar 45; home to Trinidad, Oct 45; Fg Off, 1 Nov 47 (sen 10 Sep 46); sen of 10 Sep 46 incr to 10 Mar 44, WEF 3 Sep 48; rel WS rank of Flt Lt, 1 Jan 48; rel com 27 Apr 49, rtng Flt Lt; d Trinidad, 26 May 98

    SCOON, Jellicoe Esslemonte Norbert Cecil, RAFVR; b Trinidad, 14 Nov 20; joined RAFVR Mar 42; ITW & EFTS, 1942; Sgt Plt (1803977), 1942; 1 SFTS, 1942; 53 OTU, 1942-43; 41 Sqn, Mar 43; Flt Sgt, 1943; WO, 1944; 198 Sqn, 1943; com Plt Off (196215), 28 Mar 45; Fg Off (WS), 28 Sep 45

    WILSON, George Sheldon, Trinidadian; b St James, Trinidad, 13 May 22; 22 EFTS, 1940; 11 SFTS, 1941; Sgt Plt (1007094), 1941; Flt Sgt, 1942; 53 OTU, 1942-43; 41 Sqn, 11 Mar 43; WO, 1943 - subsequent postings unknown - d Newark, Ohio, Nov 96

    COATES, Herbert Percival, 1262926, RAFVR; b Montevideo, Uruguay, 8 Dec 19; ITW, Aug 40; 17 EFTS, Mar 41; 32 SFTS, Jun 41; Sgt Plt, 1941; 57 OTU, 11 Nov 41; 81 Sqn, Jan 42; 289 Sqn, Mar 42; Flt Sgt, 1942; 222 Sqn, 18 Aug 42; 41 Sqn, 17 Feb 43 - subsequent postings unknown.

    Ultimately, I was able to track every WWII pilot's origin and was able to build some graphs of demographics and other stats. See, for example, http://brew.clients.ch/Pilots'%20Origins.png

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