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    Default F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Good Evening All & Thank you for letting me join RAF Commands.

    Like many people I have used the lock down to start a proper Family Tree, and with Ancestry's help am now in touch with a cousin who introduced me to my Uncle Stanley Warren Reeder, who was the second son of my late Dad's paternal Aunt.

    Stanley was a F/O from RAFVR and with 608 Squadron flying Mosquito XXs from Downham Market, and his last mission was on the night of 11/12 October 1944 when he flew a mission over Berlin with his Navigator F/S R J Bolton RAAF in KB364.

    He was just 23 when he made the ultimate sacrifice and is buried with RJ Bolton in the Berlin 1939-45 War Cemetery.

    I'm doing my best to find out all I can about Stanley's last mission, and would like to know if there is any record showing where his Mosquito came down, and if it was claimed as a victory by a Nachtjager or if he fell to flak.[IMG]C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Family Tree\SWR Crop[/IMG]

    I understand there are two comprehensive books on Luftwaffe Night Fighters " Nachtjagd War Diaries Vol.2 Aprill 1944-May 1945" and " Luftwaffe Night Fighter Claim: Combat Claims by Luftwaffe Night Fighter Pilots 1939 -1945" that are out of print or available only on back order right now.

    If anyone has either of these books and would kindly let me know if there is any record of a claim relating to KB364 I would be extremely grateful.

    I'm aware that there may be Mosquito claims made by Kurt Welter during this time, but frustratingly, there are 2 claims for Mossies between September and December that are undated.

    Any help or tips for extending this research and learning more about Stanley would be very welcome.

    May I Thank You All in advance, Please Stay Safe & Well in these unprecedented times,

    With Warmest Regards,

    Kevin

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    He seems to have been lost on Mosquito KB348 on 12 Oct 44

    Confirmed via https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...mageViewerLink Page 13

    KB364 was lost on a different date and crew

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hello Kevin,

    You can read the Bolton RAAF Casualty File here:

    https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Sear...aspx?B=1064855


    "Aircraft crashed 1 kilometre south-west of Nedlitz, near Potsdam."

    Best regards

    Finn Buch

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Jagan - Thank You, yes, I picked up KB 364 on an earlier search, forgive me.

    I have a photo of Stanley that I will upload, I have a friend in Munich and will visit the Berlin Cemetery to pay my Respects when travel returns to some normality.
    I believe the words on IBCC are from his Mum, Jane Reeder, nee McDonald: " It's not the words,they are but few, it's the loving memory we keep of you"
    https://losses.internationalbcc.co.uk/loss/223418

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hello Finn - Thank You Very Much !

    I will follow the link and read it now - I'm very Grateful for your help ))

    Warmest Wishes,

    Kevin

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hi Kevin,

    I have Theo Boiten’s Nachtjagd War Diaries and he has no mention of the loss of Mosquito KB348, his second edition Nachtjagd Combat Archives is not yet up to that point in time. I’ll drop him an email and see if he has anything on this loss.

    Cheers,

    John.
    Last edited by John Williams; 19th July 2020 at 05:31.

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hi John,

    Thank You, Very Much !

    I stayed up late last night / this morning as I found F/S Robert John Bolton's family in Australia via Ancestry.

    Today I have two messages from his Niece and 1st Cousin,and there are documents including Bob's 1944 diary and mentions of Stan and Mr & Mrs Reeder sending Bob's Niece and Nephew Christmas gifts.

    As I learn more I will share, I am Exceptionally grateful for all you help and advice here.

    Warmest Regards,

    Kevin

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hi Kevin,

    Theo is on a short break at the moment he thinks he has an update on this crash. Could you contact me on harleyDOT158ATbigpondDOTcom replace the DOT & COM with the usual.

    Cheers,

    John.

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Hi John,

    That's Brilliant, Thank you, I will drop you a line now,

    Warmest Regards,

    Kevin

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    Default Re: F/O Stanley Warren Reeder (172402) 608 Squadron Lost over Berlin 11/10/44

    Kevin.

    Lt Kurt Welter made claims around this time , but was not connected with the loss of Mosquito KB348.

    A German author, Andreas Zapf, has examined Welter's life and claims in two books. The latest deals with Welter's claims in great detail. Welter made no claims on the date that KB348 was lost (12/10/1944):

    While flying with 10./JG 300.

    Claim # 34 - 06 Oct 1944 - 20:30 - Mosquito - Berlin @ 8,000 m - Source - OKL Claims List
    Claim # 35 - 28 Oct 1944 - 01:20 - Mosquito - 15 Ost Sud/FG-3 (Berlin-Basdorf) @ 8,000 m. - Source - ditto

    See:

    The Jet Night Fighters Kurt Welter & the Story of the Messerschmitt Me 262 Night Fighters.
    Zapf,Andreas
    Schmitten:Author,2019.
    p.78

    In fact, on checking the O.K.L. Fighter Claims Lists - :: Reich, West & Sudfront - Aug to Dec 1944 Vol.I, it shows no Nachtjager claims at all for the period 10 October 1944 - 13/14 October 1944. Suggesting the loss of KB348 was due to something other than a fighter claim.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130928...s/tonywood.htm

    Col.
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