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    Default Re: Main Briefing or Nav Briefing first?

    As Jones says in the passage of his book: "The pattern of briefing may have varied somewhat in detail in the different Bomber Command Groups, but the pattern we followed at Kirmington was standard throughout No1 Group"

    Mike, if that Order of Battle was true to a 'T', then those poor navigators got only 20 minutes to gulp down a meal ? Bad luck if there was a queue !

    Meal 16.40
    Navigators 17.00
    Specialists 17.30
    Captains 17.30
    Main 18.00
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    I examined the Battle Orders in the ORB’s for 428 Squadron and the times of the briefings chronology are different than recorded for 419. Both squadrons are on the same station, (MSG), so one would expect consistency. These events are not given for many of the ops, so I think these are almost an afterthought. As such you probably cannot draw any conclusions as to what actually did occur.

    I was unable to get in contact with dad’s navigator today, so will bring this up when I have an opportunity.

    Jim

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    I just got off the phone with F/O M.E. Seale, my father's navigator. He informed me that he just turned 98 last month! I asked him questions concerning this topic. Without hesitation, he said the timing of the main and navigation briefing could be either way depending on the timing of information. Sometimes the Main briefing was first and sometimes the navigation briefing was first. Sometimes you had a panic briefing and not all the information was available at the time of the briefing. Sometimes the target was changed. The original target being site A and the target being changed to site B. He also referred to the famous footage you see in films of the Wing Commander pulling back the curtain revealing the target and saying "Gentlemen, your target tonight is Berlin". It didn't happen that way. Often you knew what the target was prior to briefing. Also, in the case of 419 and 428 Squadrons, they did not have combined briefings. The two Squadrons were in completely different buildings.

    Concerning charts: He said it took 20 minutes to half an hour to prepare a chart, but sometimes not all the information was available until just before take-off and they had a "bus" waiting for you to take you to the aircraft just before take off.

    He was very definite on all of the above. There was no hesitation in his voice or searching his memory.

    Jim

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