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    Major H. C. Baker appeared in Vancouver in 1920 as a pilot. He was a pilot in a fatal crash and at the coroner's inquest it was stated that he had the AFC, had been OC of a flying school, and had 2700 hrs flying.
    Nat Archives lists one H. C. Baker who was killed.
    Can find no record of this man in AFC lists, or any RFC/RAF sources.

    Any suggestions for research appreciated.

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    Hello,

    The Province, dated 3 July 1920, identifies your subject as Major Albert C. Baker, AFC.

    The article goes on to say "The accident was caused by the pilot, Major A.C. Baker, AFC flying and putting aircraft G-CAAF into a spin in contravention of Air Regulations, 1920
    and owing to his inexperience in this type of machine being unable to regain normal flight"

    Several other articles in other Vancouver papers (The Sun, Vancouver Daily World) from the same day state the investigation report was only partially released.

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    Dave

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    Thank you. I have several press results that said he was H.C. Probably just typos or a reporter's mistake. So checking both.
    Same problem with A. C. Baker as with H.C. There is no one in Air 76 who fits the bill for experience or rank, or the award of AFC.
    His role in the fatal crash is not in question, but rather the background. In Vancouver at the time there were a number of aces (Godfrey, MacLaren, McLaurin), and numerous other RAF veterans and it seems unlikely he would get away with a false record. They socialized through the Canadian Air Service Association, the Aerial League etc. Baker was getting publicity as a barnstormer around Vancouver (dropping 500 tickets to a baseball game from a Curtiss JN-4 (Can) was one stunt).
    Really trying to confirm his service in the war and AFC.

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    I found a possibility but not quite sure. I've got a log for a 2nd Lieutenant H.C.Baker selected in Canada for instruction in 1916 from the RFC Index.
    I cannot confirm whether this chap below was awarded an AFC. The only 'Baker' with an A.F.C. from pre-1920 that I've been able to find is only Major Frederick Cecil Baker, A.F.C., D.F.C., who died in 1961.

    Baker 2Lt HC 11.01.16 'to join Reading for instr in aviation' (selected in Canada)


    Update* I went through the Air 76/18 'Baker' list for A.C.Baker and H.C.Baker but was unsuccessful finding a Major Baker.
    Last edited by yeoldbarn; 30th July 2020 at 09:36. Reason: Update

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    Thank you. Beginning to think his records lost.

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    Baker was injured, the person killed in G-CAAF was E H Beasley

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    Default Re: Major H. C. Baker, AFC

    Hello,

    Other Bakers' with an AFC, pre-1920:

    Brian Edward (Edmund) BAKER
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinbur.../13378/page/77
    https://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Baker_BE.htm

    Valentine Henry BAKER (of Martin-Baker Aircraft Co. fame)
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/6520

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 30th July 2020 at 18:02.

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    Ernest Henry Beazley 1876 to 1920

    Ernest Henry Beazley
    Event Type:
    Death
    Event Date:
    24 May 1920
    Event Place:
    Cooksfield **, British Columbia, Canada
    Gender:
    Male
    Age:
    44
    Marital Status:
    Married
    Birth Date:
    16 Sep 1876

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    https://westendvancouver.wordpress.c...nry-1875-1920/

    This one says it's Major A.E.Baker...

    I did find an Alfred Edmonds Baker in the Air 76/18 list as a Lieutenant. The Gazette tells us that he resigned his commission on November 5th 1945 as a Pilot Officer. There was also an Alfred Edwin Baker but he transferred to another regiment in 1918. I'm beginning to think that, given the discrepancies between the journalist accounts, it is possible that this Baker fellow may have faked his identity.

    Fact check:

    1. Brian E. Baker - can't be him because has already a F/Lt in 1919 and already had the M.C. and various other medals. Would've been odd only to mention only the AFC in the news article?
    2. Valentine H. Baker - can't be him because he worked in the Secret Codes Department in 1920 until 1921.
    3. Frederick C. Baker - I can't confirm his rank post-1919 but he is the closest we've got to. He was a Major during WWI and was when still a Major when he was awarded the AFC and DFC in January 1919.
    Last edited by yeoldbarn; 30th July 2020 at 18:37.

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    Default Re: Major H. C. Baker, AFC

    Possibility

    Albert H C Baker Airframe Mechanic Glidden

    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
    Saturday, January 11, 1941 - Page 3

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