Accounted Airmen Database - Feedback / Corrections

[jonheyworth]

Should the RAF dead on the Maidenhead Register and the ATC cadets be included ?

[Jagan]

There have been other 'evil' suggestions as well :-) .

Fleet Air Arm casualties
The Polish Memorial register,
The Hellenic Air Force casualties
RAF Deaths 1919-1939

And I suspect any other foreign country subjects that flew in UK aircraft with a UK serial but are not show in CWGC ... ...

[jonheyworth]

I’d agree wholeheartedly that what you described are outside the “ RAF WW2 qualifying period “ the chaps on the Maidenhead register and ATC cadets ? I’m not so sure

[yeoldbarn]

Jagan,

I think a Polish and Czech airmen memorial would be excellent and I would be happy to help out!

Regards,

[Jagan]

yeoldbarn

boy, have i got a project for you :).. if you email me at jaganpvsAThotmailDOTcom, i can share an excel of the data i have

The excel has 2174 Polish Names, airmen who died - which came from Kryzystek's List - https://listakrzystka.pl/en/ or https://listakrzystka.pl/?download=lista-krzystka-pdf

Some work has been done on it - in three categories

1042 have an aircraft serial associated with it
146 have some cause of death.
959 do not have a cause of death.

Now this sheet has to be reconciled with the current CWGC Data that has 1462 records (with 13 unaccounted)

That would leave about 712 names that will have to be sorted through and added to the current CWGC Database . Now this 712 records could well be spread throughout the three categories in the excel. So the actual research needed could be on a smaller number...

The data in Krysystek;s list can be used to enrich the current CWGC Data - (service numbers, name corrections etc) so that is a bit of work)..


PS: Thanks for your inputs on other records till date.

[Alex Smart]

Hello Javan,
Oddly a couple of weeks ago I started to look at the Polish airmen . So far, not counting those lost in France before the Battle of Britain. The earliest Polish airman to loose his life in the UK in WW2 was on the 29 the July, 1940. Hurricane L1714, 6 OTU, Kasimierz OLEWINSKI, P/76753.
In 1940 so far I found only 21. Only one died from from illness, Blood poisoning while in Hospital.

[jonheyworth]

I’ve noticed that whilst the IBCC entries for aircrew are great, for non aircrew they more often than not contain no details at all . I’ve been through the first 6 months of the war and of 9 such entries to 1940/04/14 Solomon , Rowe , Rule, Douglas , Green , Flynn, Prior and Hall - 8 of them have NO details of loss whatsoever

[Jagan]

Jon, Good call out. Did a query and Thankfully I have only 146 of them present (No Aircraft Id, but an IBCC link). I had used the IBCC provided data to populate this so some may not have had the info. All the records seem to be from 1940 and 1941..

I have cleaned those out - will validate against IBCC and re-enter only those that have additional details.

[jonheyworth]

Don’t want to be an arse but it did strike me ! How can you be so IT savvy ?? I used a pen and paper !

[jonheyworth]

Oh some I notice DO have causes of death so you don’t want to cull any that do !!