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    Default Alexander SMITH 103451

    Hello,

    I'm looking for details about this officer I suspect to have served with 91 in the last year of the war as F/L and Flight CO. In using LG I'm able to find only post-war details. Would anyone have more luck to get more details for his war service?

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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    He joined 91 Squadron on April 22nd 1943 from 52 OTU and left again on April 3rd 1946.

    John Engelsted

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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Hello

    Looks as if there "might be" some confusion over Alexander Smith's service number*:

    (Representative - incomplete!)

    1104086 P/O Alexander SMITH (111493) P/O - G.D. 20/09/1941.
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...35426/page/350

    111493 P/O Alexander SMITH P/O (prob.) confirmed and to be Flg. Off. (war subs.) - G.D. 20/09/1942
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/4704

    111493 F/Lt Alexander SMITH RAFVR to be F/Lt (W.S.) - G.D. 20/09/1943
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/...upplement/4360

    111493 F/Lt Alexander SMITH RAFVR F/Lt - Mentioned in Despatches - 01/01/1946
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37407/page/99 (see also pp.88 & 95)

    * Phil, can you confirm the number (103451), you have for Smith?

    Col.
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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Col,

    Indeed there are a lot of Alexander Smith possible. I found this service number in an AFL (1944). The LG confirms the service number, but I got only details for the post-war period, can't say why. I was looking for an 'Alex' Smith who served with 91 in 1944 as a F/L and it was the only one with post-war details, a good point as he was still serving with 91 early in 1946. John has confirmed my intuition, so problem solved. Thanks for your time.
    Phil

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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Alexander SMITH 103451 was promoted to Flying Officer in Training Branch in the Gazette of 16th December 1947 then relinquished his commission on 21st February 1949.
    Where did you get the information that he was an A/F/Lt in 1944?

    Chris

    Sorry AFL air force list
    AFL July 1944 does not show him in a column. Does that not mean he was non-operational
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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Quote Originally Posted by cozzy711 View Post
    Alexander SMITH 103451 was promoted to Flying Officer in Training Branch in the Gazette of 16th December 1947 then relinquished his commission on 21st February 1949.
    Where did you get the information that he was an A/F/Lt in 1944?

    Chris

    Sorry AFL air force list
    AFL July 1944 does not show him in a column. Does that not mean he was non-operational
    Try October 1944 or October 1945, the two I looked into, in both he's appearing. As said, I was looking for an 'Alex' Smith, F/L in 1944 and Flight CO at the end of the war. My research started from that point. But what it is strange is that I was unable to find the date of his commission for example, only post-war data. Reverting to lower rank after the war not not unusual for those who wanted to stay in the RAF.
    Phil

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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Phil

    In the index section of Air Force List it should also indicate a column which relates to which Branch they are in ie GD, Medical, Equipment etc. If your man was serving with an operational squadron and he was aircrew he would have a column number indicating his rank and seniority within General Duties Branch. Alexander Smith 103451 does appear in July 1944 but the column number is blank meaning he was not at that time attached to any branch so may have already been retired but retaining the rank of F/Lt.
    Maybe someone who knows more than me can explain it better

    Chris

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    Default Re: Alexander SMITH 103451

    Chris,
    You put a doubt in my mind. Checking twice, what Col found could be my man at the end as the promotions follow what LG gives...
    Phil

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