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    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...henry-gatfield

    Says "Cadet, 708 Sqdn., Air Training Corps, who died age 15 on 28 March 1943. Son of Albert Edward and Winifred Gatfield (nee Hitchman), of High Wycombe."

    Implies illness ?

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    It could have been an auto generated statement based on the values in a database. "who died age (pull value ) on ("pull date value).. Son of (pull parents details)"

    Thanks for the link on Leslie - updated that record.

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    Chris Hobson

    Peter Henry Gatfield Cadet


    Tiger Moth II DE844

    Crashed at Chosley Grange near Ibstone, Bucks during an air experience flight in a 21 Elementary Flying Training School aircraft.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=DE844
    1943-03-28

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    Warm appreciation to Jagan and all who contributed to the ATC Casualties roll.
    Poignant recognition of the dangers that faced the youngsters who joined the ATC as Air Cadets in war-time of whom, at current count, 55 died, aged from 14 to 19 years.
    The various counts (post 1 and 3 above) might not be reconcilable but all in all, a commendable result.

    Amendment pls:
    "Flight Sergeant" Bryon Vernon Long (104) should be (as his CWGC graves reg card shows)
    Cadet Flight Sergeant - common usage for the other Air Cadets listed.
    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...hp?qnum=124362

    A commendable result.
    Toujours à propos

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    10.7.45: Joseph Hassall (38), civilian instructor at M41 Elementary Gliding School, Knowle, gliding accident while on an RAF instructors' course at Sutton Bank

    22.4.46: Desmond Edward Daroux (31), civilian instructor at 45 Gliding School, Meir; after crash in Cadet TX.I RA889 the previous day

    17.7.47: Cadet Raymond Alan Glass (19), gliding accident at 203 GS, Downhill the previous day

    RAFVR officers listed by the CWGC who died while acting as ATC instructors include Flying Officer Andrew Murray Reith on 28.8.43, Flt Lt James Ronald Foster on 9.9.45 and Flying Officer Francis James Sheldrake on 21.4.46.

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    Sheldrake

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...FVR-21-04-1946


    http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads...tructor.25934/


    Daily Mirror April 25th 1946
    40,000-1 But Glider Expert was killed
    When Chief instructor F.W. Sheldrake, 40 left his home at Widnes, Lancs to take part in Air training Corps gliding training he told his father “Your safer up there than on the road”

    He was killed in the first fatal crash during the centre’s 40,000 launchings and at yesterdays inquest the C.O. of the glider school said: Your safer up there than on the road
    Verdict: Accidental death

    Death Certificate which states that he died at the Royal Naval, Sick Quarters at Grappenhall, Cheshire as a result of 'Shock due to multiple chest and spine injuries caused when the glider he was piloting accidently crashed to the ground.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...men-21-04-1946

    => Interesting 2 Glider accidents the same day!

    22.4.46: Desmond Edward Daroux (31), civilian instructor at 45 Gliding School, Meir; after crash in Cadet TX.I RA889 the previous day

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    There are several ATC lads who were killed / died who are not on the CWGC data base, who would qualify if they were RAF . I’m currently submitting one lad who died in a vehicle accident returning from camp as the 3 Brum boys who died in the Leicester Truck crash returning from camp are commemorated . Others died in a canoe accident on camp but I don’t think the CWGC would accept these

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    I also think I’ll submit Cadet Glass to the CWGC as he clearly died on duty within the 31/12/47 remit

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    Glass accident well documented rescuers earned George Medals though serial not stated

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    Glass submitted to CWGC he was classed as a civilian instructor but ATC cadet John M Allum killed when an aircraft hit a group of ATC cadets at an airfield is also under consideration
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