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    Default Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Hi,

    can anyone help with the forenames of the following RCAF aircrew:

    F/L A.R. Milner RCAF J/12764 (429 Sqn)
    F/O A.L. Staley RCAF J/41701 (12 Sqn)
    F/O D.J. Cameron RCAF J/45297 (434 Sqn)
    W/O F.E. Hamburgh RCAF R/164673 (406 Sqn)
    F/O E.H. Pinnell RCAF J/41423 (406 Sqn)

    TIA

    RodM

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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Hi,

    R122364 Allan Ralph MILNER (J12764) Croix de Guerre

    https://www.rcafassociation.ca/herit...d_all&type=all

    https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...danrvjiv629gl2

    R118835 Austin STALEY (J41701)

    https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...danrvjiv629gl2

    R122482 Duncan John CAMERON (J45297)

    https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...danrvjiv629gl2

    R100282 Ernest Hamilton PINNELL (J41423)

    https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/...danrvjiv629gl2


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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Rod,

    Hamburgh appears in the Canadian media throughout the war. Unfortunately his Christian names are never given. He is know as E.E.; F.E. and S.E. depending on what newspaper you look at.

    The man was from Verdun, Quebec; Pinnell was his navigator. From The Ottawa Citizen, 3 March 1945:

    With the RCAF in Britain, April 3. A Junkers 88 was destroyed in the air during the night by an RCAF Lynx squadron Mosquito piloted by Warrant Officer S.E. Hamburgh of Verdun, Quebec.

    Hamburgh and his navigator, F/O E.H. Pinnell of Varsity View Post Office, Manitoba, were patrolling northern Germany when they sighted the enemy and opened fire with a two-second burst.

    The German plane disintegrated in the air after the port engine exploded.
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    Dave

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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    For what itís worth, ASN quotes initials F.E. while apparently referencing the 406 Sqn ORB.

    https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/181652

    Robert

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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Hi Mojmir and Dave,

    thank you so much for the details. I'd used the Canada Gazette for other searches, but found hit rather hit and miss, so didn't pursue it this time (my mistake).

    Regarding Hamburgh, the 406 Squadron ORB consistently gives his initials as F.E.

    In going down the rabbit hole of searching Hamburghs in Verdun, Quebec, there was a Myra Flora Hamburgh, born in Toronto in 1924 and deceased in 2014. She was brought up in Verdun but later returned to Toronto. She had a sister and three brothers, one named Fred. It seems her brother Fred was Frederick Edward Hamburgh, born in Toronto on 4 October 1922 and deceased on 27 October 1996. The whole pack of five siblings are buried/commemorated in York cemetery, Toronto. It's hardly conclusive, but Frederick Edward could be W/O F.E. Hamburgh RCAF.

    Thanks

    Rod

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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Hi Rod,

    Could it help you ?

    GRADUATE AIRCRAFTSMEN.
    A large class of graduate received their badges as leading aircraftsmen at No. 3 Initial Training School, Victoriaville, this week.

    F. E. Hamburgh, 43!) Moffat avenue, Verdun;

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/419604247/

    MANY QUEBECRERS ARE GIVEN WINGS
    Half of No. 13 Flying Training School Graduates Are from Montreal

    F. E. Hamburgh, 439 Moffat avenue, Verdun.

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/419303671/

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    Default Re: Forenames sought for some RCAF aircrew, NW Europe, 1945

    Hi Mojmir,

    thanks for the additional details.

    I've exhausted my online search options for Frederick Edward Hamburgh but are no closer to confirming his identity. He was born in Toronto and his sister (also born in Toronto) went to school in Verdun - the only link to Verdun I can find. Frederick Edward Hamburgh emigrated to America after the war and died in San Diego in 1996. One of his two half-brothers, Warrant Officer Class II (Company Sergeant-Major) Russell David Hamburgh received an OBE in the 1946 NY Honours list.

    Cheers

    Rod

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