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    Default Re: 5 December 1944 raid to Hamm/Soest

    Franek,

    A couple of names:

    James Ralph Disher, RAAF
    Stanley Brandenburg Le Brun

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    Default Re: 5 December 1944 raid to Hamm/Soest

    Franek - I see two attacks on dams in the area, the Heinbach dam on the 3rd by 183 Lancasters of 1 Group & 4 Mosquitos from 8 Group. On the 4th the Urft dam was attached by 27 Lancasters and 4 Mosquitos of 8 Group
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    Franek,


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    It appears that the Urft Dam & Heinbach Dam are one in the same. There were three “Oboe Leader” formation attacks using Oboe equipped Lancasters with Oboe Mosquito crews from 105 & 109 Squadrons flying the Lancasters down beam on the bombing run in the late afternoon of the 4th, followed by an Oboe Mosquito acting as a reserve and a formation of Lancasters in echelon to starboard. H-Hour was 15:15. I have one 109 crew dropping from a 582 Squadron Lancaster at 15:25. These Oboe Leader formation attacks usually had fighter escorts since the formations had to fly straight and level down the Oboe beam for 10 minutes before reaching the target. The other Lancaster squadrons involved were 405 and 35 Squadrons.
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    Thanks gents!
    Actually, Urft Dam (50 36' 10.28" N 6 25' 10.09" E) & Heinbach Dam (50 37' 42.84" N 6 28' 44.45" E) are about 4 miles apart, Not much a difference for the crew, I guess. What I find confusing is a note in an ORB of one of the escort Squadrons, that the dam was just behind the front, near Arnhem - now, that is the difference.
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    Default Re: 5 December 1944 raid to Hamm/Soest

    Franek: I have no information on the Hamm raid, however, I have put together a relatively extensive document on the Soest Raid. The Soest Raid was directed at the Marshalling Yards and was extremely successful.

    A total of 474 aircraft bombed the target and there were 23 abortive sorties and 2 aircraft were missing or 0.4% of the force . Photographic reconnaissance on Christmas Day revealed extensive damage to the Soest rail facilities. West and Eastbound sidings were still out of commission and the Transhipment shed was virtually destroyed, together with other buildings. The Westbound Reception and holding sidings had been repaired at the time of photography but the locomotive depot was still only 50% operational because of destruction of the roundhouse and other buildings and the wagon repair shops were “wholly” demolished. The through-lines had been cut in several places but had been repaired at the time of the reconnaissance.

    The 419 Squadron crews were most complimentary towards the Pathfinder marking and that the bombing was well concentrated on the marking. F/Lt. John Anderson commented “A mass of well concentrated fires…with red flames, a really good effort. A most successful trip. The target was really ablaze. The marking was right on .” F/Lt. Bill Collard remarked that “…one rectangular building completely on fire. ” All aircraft carried Nickels. Given the mass of flames, one wonders how many survived the fires.

    Dad recorded in his logbook seeing three nightfighters (2 Me 210's) but these were likely HE 219's. Opposition by the Nachtjagd was weak with 2 attacks over Soest and 2 south of Bonn on the way home from the target. The “Y” report for Middleton St. George for December 5/6 1944 records for Dad’s crew “419/B 5200N 0705E 19000’ 2120 HRS. THOUGHT TO BE A/C FALL AND BURST ON GROUND." The time is inconsistent with the location, which is just east the most northern turning point on the route over Germany.

    Not sure if you are looking for information on Soest but I might have more for you.

    Jim
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    Default Re: 5 December 1944 raid to Hamm/Soest

    Thanks Jim, but I am after daylight raids, researching one of the pilots involved.
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