Any Good Resource Online for RAF Casualty Lists? Now Flight Global Gone

[paulmcmillan]

I need it for casualties for 24 Feb 1945

I want to see how

Flight Lieutenant Tristram Knight Pryce BRUCE (125151) Beaufighter VI ND219 Forum PostRAF 1945-02-24 54 OTU United Kingdom Runnymede MemorialRef : Panel 265.
Sergeant William Henry PARKIN (1801082) Beaufighter VI ND219 Forum PostRAF 1945-02-24 54 OTU United Kingdom Runnymede Memorial


and


Flight Lieutenant Joseph Godfrey BROWN (139397) RAF 1945-02-24 United Kingdom Runnymede Memorial

Are listed


http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...815#post155815

[dennis_burke]

I combined the 1940 thru 1945 Service Aviation pages into PDF files back in the day, 2 per year. It's what I used to use on the late night sessions of name finding with Henk. Then I got married!

I'm loading them to a good drive link now,,,,,,,, and they should be here....

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...bR?usp=sharing

I may not keep that link active for long as space is running out on my account but i can always add them back in.

I also started this many many moons ago and stalled, I did manage to do transcribe the 1944 DOAS and all WAAF lists

http://www.ww2irishaviation.com/DOASandWAAF1944.htm
Ignore the 'flightsa' link at the top, its defunct.

That also stalled. It could be completed for the website here tho (not by me I might add)

ACtually, I have recently been involved on a great WW1 project where an army of volunteers have transcribed 78,000 US Army WW1 burial cards, almost done now and will be hosted for free on Fold3.
https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/...i-burial-cards

Click on 'Classify' to see how that project has been running.

Anyone can set up a project on it tho the IT skills would want to be good I think. But it would be a great platform for that kind of donkey work of transcribing. The RAF GRO overseas list springs to mind and these casualty lists. Copyright issues I'm sure would arise and the GRO wouldn't be keen. I must email the GRO for the laugh and see what they say. They might have it licensed to findmypast I think.

Old Aeroplane wartime magazines seem to have published the same lists but with serial numbers included.

[dennis_burke]

In the 1945-2 PDF at my link you will find Parkin and Brown listed as Missing beleived KOAS page 8 of 92

I cannot find Bruce but that is one of the problems with these files, the charactor recognition is only so good, every photo on the pages tends to have scribbles over them which can extend on the text, a good example being page 8 of 92 above.

Some manual searching is needed at times. It was an art I'd perfected.

[Argus]

Hello Dennis,

"I cannot find Bruce"

He is mentioned with 54 OTU in a handwritten amendment below in my GRO microfiche.

Regards

Finn Buch

[paulmcmillan]

Dennis

Thanks

Paul

[paulmcmillan]

All on the same Casualty Communique No. 524

MISSING, BELIEVED KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE
Fit. Lt. M. A. Berkeley; -> Missing Beaufighter ND219 54 OTU
Flt. Lt. J. G. Brown; -> Unknown listed as 'GTR OTU' -- which makes no sense to me...
Sgt. S. T. Norfolk; -> Stephen Turner NORFOLK (1042063) 1945-02-21 Served in 1675 HCU Lost in aircraft Liberator EV903
Sgt. W. H. Parkin -> > Missing Beaufighter ND219 54 OTU


BRUCE, Tristram Knight Pryce - F/L - 125151 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.[ Served as BERKELEY, Mark Athton ].

All three Command: Fighter Command (Hobson) and Runnymede Memorial though Hobson has 'Died' against Brown - Whereas Casualty Communique No. 524 "
MISSING, BELIEVED KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE"


I have a feeling all three may have been on Beaufighter and

"he book "The Charterhall Story" (Thompson, 1989) refers (page 68) to the 54 OTU accident on 24 February 1945 as follows:

"... ND219 flew into the sea eighteen miles east of Berwick. The Beaufighter, on an AI exercise, had turned onto the target aircraft at 8,000 feet, lost control in a steep turn and spun in. An extensive air and sea search, lasting two days, found no trace of the aircrew. Flight Lieutenant Berkeley, his N/R, and an instructor (on board to check the exercise) were posted missing, presumed dead.""

Brown was the Instructor

[Jagan]

Why was BRUCE serving on a completely different name?

[paulmcmillan]

Great question doubt we will ever know


ame: Tristram Knight Price Bruce
[Mark Athton Berkeley]
Death Date: 24 Feb 1945
Death Place: Hampshire, England
Probate Date: 16 Oct 1947
Probate Registry: London, England

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995

of Folly Farm Ringwood
Effects to Ann West Sanders Butterfield married woman

Bruce Tristram Knight Price B
or Berkeley Mark Athton

see BRUCE for Berkeley


1939 Register Address: Oaks. Branksome Park Poole
Race Horse Trainer
RAF for duration of war [Joined 19 Sept 1939]

Cheltenham address 1938

Bruce: Missing believed killed Feb 1945, only son of Mr and Mrs C F R Bruce, Oaks
Bournemouth and Cluncy Alberta Canada

Birth
04/02/1917 (4 Feb 1917)

Name
Tristram K P Bruce
Birth
abt 1919 Cheltenham, England
Departure
1923 Swansea, Wales
Arrival
03/1923 (Mar 1923) Saint John, New Brunswick

[paulmcmillan]

WE DO KNOw!



ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
To be Pit. Offs. (emergency): —

LONDON GAZETTE, 6 OCTOBER, 1942

19th June 1942
1384182 Mark Athton BERKELEY (125151).

Tristram Knight Pryce BRUCE (
Tristram Knight Price BRUCE

Correct SPELLING

Tristram Knight Pryce Bruce 915845 1940 Royal Air Force

Ancestry
Correct Name: Tristram Knight Pryce Bruce

"In RAF he first became a radar mechanic. As his trade was prevented from volunteering as
air crew, Tristam deserted and rejoined as Mark Berkley. Killed in action."

[Jagan]

Excellent Catch Paul.

I queried the CWGC data where they had "Served As" in the additional data field - about 60 odd records came up.. most of them appear legit name changes for those with foreign sounding names.


ATKINSON, Cyril (169678) , Pilot Officer - Served as REED Died:1944
AUSTIN, Ronald Stanley (328251V) , Second Lieutenant - Served as ASHLEY Died:1944
BARKER, Thomas Edward (404336) , Pilot Officer - Served as CLIFT Died:1943
BEVERSTOCK, Albert (62078) , Leading Aircraftman - Served as A. SMEDLEY Died:1944
BLOOM, Basil Bartholomew (89789) , Pilot Officer - Served as BARTHOLOMEW, PILOT OFFR. (PILOT Died:1941
BLUM, Denis (148798) , Pilot Officer - Served as BROOKE Died:1943
BRUCE, Tristram Knight Pryce (125151) , Flight Lieutenant - Served as BERKELEY, MARK ATHTON Died:1945
COCKBURN, Alexander Bridges (414594) , Sergeant - Served as ALEXANDER BRIDGES COBURN Died:1942
CRANSWICK, Ernest (1457413) , Leading Aircraftman - Served as HEWBY Died:1944
D'ARCY-WRIGHT, Gerald (40162) , Pilot Officer - Served as WRIGHT. Died:1940
DENNEHY, Denis (1798543) , Aircraftman 2nd Class - Served as J. DENNEHY Died:1943
DOWNES, Henry Lyndon (632177) , Sergeant - Served as MORGAN Died:1942
ECHIN, Henry Adolphus (402223) , Pilot Officer - Served as CHINN Died:1942
FALIEJEVAS, Jurgis (139689) , Pilot Officer - Served as COCKAYNE Died:1943
FLEMING, Ian Hunter (436537) , Flight Sergeant - Served as HUNTER, IAN Died:1944
GODDARD, William Edward (577) , Warrant Officer - Served as PICKETT Died:1946
HAHN, Hugo (577321V) , Air Mechanic - Served as BOTHA, T. Died:1944
HARTOG, Ronald (1814810) , Sergeant - Served as HARWOOD Died:1944
HEAD, Douglas Watley Turner (639225) , Aircraftman 2nd Class - Served as TURNER, DOUGLAS WATLEY Died:1940
HNIDAN, Victor (J/20877) , Flying Officer - Served as HINDIN Died:1943
INAYAT-KHAN, Noor (Nora) (9901) , Section Officer - Served as NORA Died:1944
ISABELLE, Joseph Rene (R/283124) , Sergeant - Served as JOSEPH RENE MORIN Died:1945
JACOBOVITCH, Israel (1158295) , Sergeant - Served as JACKSON Died:1941
JARVIS, Patrick Joseph (974666) , Aircraftman 2nd Class - Served as WILLIAM HENRY KIRK Died:1940
JOSEFSSON, Nancy Ulrika (7734) , Section Officer - Served as GILLINGHAM Died:1944
KAY-SHUTTLEWORTH, Richard Ughtred Paul (70356) , Flying Officer - Served as SHUTTLEWORTH. R.U.P. Died:1940
KUPINSKY, Phil (1687510) , Leading Aircraftman - Served as BOYD Died:1945
LANGFORD, Guy (1059609) , Flight Sergeant - Served as LANGFORD-PUDNEY Died:1942
LAZARUS, Sydney Lewis (47940) , Flight Sergeant - Served as LEWIS Died:1940
LEVY-DESPAS, Guy Andre (J/5044) , Flying Officer - Served as CARLET Died:1942
LEWIS, Victor Burnett (903424) , Sergeant - Served as BURNETT, V.I.L. Died:1940
LEWIS-STANIFORD, Ronald Stanley Victor (909501) , Sergeant - Served as LEWIS Died:1943
MACALISTER, Peter Donald (60081) , Pilot Officer - Served as FARRAGUT, PILOT OFFR. PETER DONALD, Died:1941
MADDOCKS, Kenneth Cyrus (624355) , Aircraftman 1st Class - Served as KENNETH CYRUS MERRICK Died:1940
MASSEY, Kevin Kenneth (439492) , Leading Aircraftman - Served as REILLY Died:1944
McCALLUM, Brian Allan (J/5075) , Pilot Officer - Served as MACCALLUM Died:1941
McDONNELL, Thomas (1826918) , Aircraftman 2nd Class - Served as CUMMINGS Died:1943
MEGRANAHAN, John Francis (1819478) , Sergeant - Served as MEGRAN, Died:1943
MERRY, Herbert Revill (104342) , Pilot Officer - Served as SCARD, JOHN BERTRAM Died:1942
MUSTARD, George () , Cadet - Served as DUNCAN Died:1947
PRATT, James (516867) , Sergeant - Served as MCLAUGHLIN, JAMES. Died:1939
REIK, Chaviva (2992503) , Sergeant - Served as ADA ROBINSON AND MARTHA MARTINOVIC Died:1944
REISZ, Stephan Rafael (769472) , Sergeant - Served as S. RICE Died:1944
REUTER, Georges Henri Mathieu (60280) , Pilot Officer - Served as CARTER, DAVID Died:1941
ROSENBERG, Arthur Lawrence (240326) , Air Sergeant - Served as LAWRENCE Died:1943
ROWAN-ROBINSON, Derrick Paul Woodrow (39173) , Flying Officer - Served as ROBINSON Died:1940
SAVUKEVITCH, John (1558937) , Sergeant - Served as HARRIS Died:1943
SCHWARZ, Hans Heinz (1876107) , Flight Sergeant - Served as BLAKE Died:1944
SCOTT, Norman (212621V) , Air Mechanic - Served as MULLEN, D Died:1944
SHARLING, Hampton (1500420) , Leading Aircraftman - Served as HAMPTON, GEORGE HAMPTON Died:1946
SINCLAIR, Alfred Cecil Edgcumbe (1603358) , Sergeant - Served as GALE Died:1944
SLORACH, Robert-Scott Meldrum (51052) , Flying Officer - Served as MELDRUM Died:1943
SOLOMONS, Louis John (748642) , Sergeant - Served as SOMERS Died:1943
STEER, James (564898) , Flight Sergeant - Served as UTTING Died:1944
TAYLOR, Herbert Frederick (159879) , Flight Lieutenant - Served as BENSON, Died:1945
THALBITZER, Jorgen Billy (110594) , Flying Officer - Served as THOMPSON Died:1943
TILL, Ernest Fleetwood Street (157020) , Flying Officer - Served as TRAVIS Died:1944
UNTERNAHRER, Yolande Elsa Maria (9902) , Section Officer - Served as Y.E.M. BEEKMAN Died:1944
WARRINGTON, William Henry (743266) , Aircraftman 2nd Class - Served as KELLETT Died:1940
WITHERS, Douglas Elgin (21899) , Sergeant - Served as BAIN Died:1942
WOODCOCK, John Leonard Treeve (207176V) , Lieutenant - Served as LENARDS, LT. JACK Died:1945
ZAICZKOWSKI, Nick (J/45103) , Flying Officer - Served as ZAKOW Died:1945