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    Default P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Dear forum members
    I'm trying to find some details about my Uncle P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332
    HIs record card shows his name and number. with a typed "DU" on the card. What does this mean - "Discharged Unfit" ?
    Born 5th June 1923 - St Pancras London, England.
    I think he was sent to Canada for ab initio flight training
    He flew fighters / ground attack and was shot down and very badly injured. Possibly 1942 or 1943? over NW Europe.
    I believe he was taken prisoner and possibly exchanged as a severely injured POW via the Red Cross.
    I don't know his RAF squadron.
    If anyone has information about his service record i would be most grateful.
    Thanks
    Andy

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    1800332 would be his pre-commissioning airman number.. the record card you mention is the AIR78 index card https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C15623773 (Page 179) - but his actual record from MoD will give you much richer information .

    He is mentioned in this thread http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...sh-first-names

    Our POW DB , which is based on National Archives Data - does not list him as a POW.
    I just checked the original sources WO392/18 - Air Force POWs in Germany and WO392/20 POWs in Italy and AIR20/2336 and could not find a record for him ..


    In addition to whatever info members may offer - you should also try https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-...vice-personnel and get a copy of his actual record sheet.
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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagan View Post
    1800332 would be his pre-commissioning airman number.. the record card you mention is the AIR78 index card https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C15623773 (Page 179) - but his actual record from MoD will give you much richer information .

    He is mentioned in this thread http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...sh-first-names

    Our POW DB , which is based on National Archives Data - does not list him as a POW.
    I just checked the original sources WO392/18 - Air Force POWs in Germany and WO392/20 POWs in Italy and AIR20/2336 and could not find a record for him ..


    In addition to whatever info members may offer - you should also try https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-...vice-personnel and get a copy of his actual record sheet.
    Thank you so much for your help Jagan.

    I think on balance a copy of his actual service record will be more fruitful.
    It's useful to understand that the number i have is a Pre commissioning airman number from AIR78 index. Much obliged for this info.
    I can get his Death Cert copy and think i'll be aided by his unusual middle name and DOB.
    I recall i did find a National Archives Data metadata ref to his name in a doc written in German but this won't be released until 2024.
    Thanks
    Regards
    Andy

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Hello,

    Not sure if this is your man:

    14/01/1945
    56 OTU
    Tempest V JN819
    Damaged in landing accident, Milfield
    Sgt P C BROWN (p.213)

    03/04/1945
    56 Sqn.
    Tempest V NV728
    Engine failed, forced landed E of Friesoythe, Germany.
    Sgt P C BROWN (Safe) (p.214)

    22/03/1945
    Sgt P C Brown, flying No.56 Sqn Tempest V NV970, claimed a Fw 190 in the Hesepe area. (p.191)

    See:
    The Typhoon & Tempest Story.
    Thomas,Chris & Christopher Shores.
    London:Arms & Armour Press,1988.
    pp.191. 213 & 214.

    Col.
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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    He is your man.

    56 OTU, Course No. 1A (Tempest) Duration of Course 10 weeks 2.1.45 - 13.5.45

    Sgt. 180032 (sic) Brown, P. C. Brit. Assessment A 13.3.45 Posted to 83 G.S.U. Flying Hours Day 52.05 Night 0,50

    Was he really commissioned? (Pilot Officer?)

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    I couldn't find anything in the LG, nor in the Air Force Lists of mid 43 and mid 44. Regards, Terry

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Thank you for your info Mojmir.
    i took that he was commissioned P/O only from a search on another site. think this would be an error. Not P/O in fact i have found a pic of him this morning in my Dad's papers with him wearing sgt stripes!

    I will definitely be able to get his full records now with some confidence from the MOD.

    Kind Reghards
    Andy

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Thank you Terry for checking..It looks like he was serving in 1945.

    Kind Regards
    Andy

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    Hi Andy,

    in July 1945 he was F/Sgt. Look at "Junior members" : Brown, Peter Corin and Brown, Richard - the same address

    https://archive.rps.org/archive/volu...an%20wadenoyen

    Phil Listemann looked for Brown, 1800332 two years ago:

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...sh-first-names

    Mojmir

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    Default Re: P/O Peter Corin BROWN RAF s/n 1800332 - Any information?

    That's him for sure.

    Think the Richard Brown most likely to be his brother. Not his father as he was Henry F Brown.

    Postwar he became a professional photographer in Welwyn Garden City, Herts, England
    Peter C Brown Photographers ltd.
    He took the pictures for my sisters wedding in 1982. Sadly he died the next year.

    https://cashewnut.me.uk/WGCbooks/web...oks-1970-3.php

    The photographs are by Peter C. Brown of Welwyn Photographers Ltd. apart from the one showing the Lincoln Electric factory (and those from advertisements).

    I'm indebted to the people on this forum indeed.
    I hope to make a short biography of my uncle for my family. Being able to flesh out his service record is amazing.
    I wish i'd had the opportunity to speak to him now, as an adult ,about his service days. Sadly he passed in 1983 suddenly. What a brave man , part of 'The Greatest Generation ' indeed

    Kind Regards
    Andy
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